Liam Brady

**tetsujin1979** · 09/12/2007, 4:04 PM

Originally Posted by Condex

There is no way Brady will get the job..

I just laid �20 against him getting thew job at 3.3

it's looking likely he won't get it alright, from today's Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...b-1241658.html

John Delaney has made public some of the criteria which will form the basis for the selection of the next Irish manager and they appear to rule out the current second-favourite Liam Brady.

"Without commenting on anyone individually, you have got to look at their record over a period of time in management," Delaney said. "One criterion that I can say is that we want someone who has actually managed internationally or managed at a high level in terms of Premiership football, be it in England or in a European country. I think it is important that somebody would have managed at that level, that is one of the key criteria."

**Bondvillain** · 09/12/2007, 4:44 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

John Delaney has made public some of the criteria which will form the basis for the selection of the next Irish manager and they appear to rule out the current second-favourite Liam Brady.

"Without commenting on anyone individually, you have got to look at ThEiR Record over a period of time in management," Delaney said. "One criterion that I can saY is that we want someone who has actually managed internationally or managed at a high leVEl in terms of Premiership football, be it in eNgland or in A European country. I think it is important that someBody would have managed at that LEvel, that iS one of the key criteria."

"And I am am of course, speaking the truth."

The bould Johhny D, spelling it out for us there.

**eekers** · 09/12/2007, 5:13 PM

One criterion that I can say is that we want someone who has actually managed internationally or managed at a high level in terms of Premiership football, be it in England or in a European country

stan would fit in to this.
as would brady he managed celtic (in the top league in a european country).
in fact nearly everyone on the bookies list would.
it has no time frame or success level attached

**gspain** · 09/12/2007, 5:27 PM

Originally Posted by eekers

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as would brady he managed celtic (in the top league in a european country).

I thought they were always in the Scottish league.

**TonyD** · 09/12/2007, 5:37 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

I thought they were always in the Scottish league.

Fnar, fnar

**geysir** · 09/12/2007, 5:40 PM

Whats the problem, eekers is factually correct.
The SPL is the top league in Scotland which is a country in Europe.

**Paddy Garcia** · 09/12/2007, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by eekers

stan would fit in to this.

How would he ?

Unless you mean now, having f**ked up the Ireland job.

**Jerry The Saint** · 09/12/2007, 7:05 PM

One criterion that I can say is that we want someone who has actually managed internationally or managed at a high level in terms of Premiership football, be it in England or in a European country

That's some horribly tortured sentence construction right there, even by Delaney's low standards.

managed at a high level in terms of Premiership football

be it in England or in a European country

Your bias is showing John

**eekers** · 09/12/2007, 8:50 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

How would he ?

Unless you mean now, having f**ked up the Ireland job.

yep i mean now, stan would qualify with the current criteria.

**macdermesser** · 10/12/2007, 10:58 AM

if my granny had balls ... and the leery look at the end.

dourness personified .. no thanks. (He shoved me out of the way when i asked him to sign my programme back in 1987 .. so its a personal vendetta ;-)

He might have been a candidate last time round, but can't see the FAI taking risks this time round.

**Noelys Guitar** · 10/12/2007, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by macdermesser

if my granny had balls ... and the leery look at the end.

dourness personified .. no thanks. (He shoved me out of the way when i asked him to sign my programme back in 1987 .. so its a personal vendetta ;-)

He might have been a candidate last time round, but can't see the FAI taking risks this time round.

Classic clip. Touch of the David Brent's about it. Brady is no Stan and I don't care about dourness as long as the manager knows what hes doing. I wonder how he would have done managing in the Premiership or Serie A? Its a pity he got ****ed off with management in the 90's.

**youngirish** · 10/12/2007, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Classic clip. Touch of the David Brent's about it. Brady is no Stan and I don't care about dourness as long as the manager knows what hes doing. I wonder how he would have done managing in the Premiership or Serie A? Its a pity he got ****ed off with management in the 90's.

He didn't get p*ssed off so to speak. No decent club would touch him with a barge pole so why should we? The only option that could possibly be worse than Stan (I'd say Souness would be bad but would still constitute an improvement).

**Noelys Guitar** · 10/12/2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by youngirish

He didn't get p*ssed off so to speak. No decent club would touch him with a barge pole so why should we? The only option that could possibly be worse than Stan (I'd say Souness would be bad but would still constitute an improvement).

It is much easier to "retire" when nobody wants you.

**osarusan** · 10/12/2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Its a pity he got ****ed off with management in the 90's.

It's not so much a case of him getting pi$$ed of with management as clubs realising he couldn't manage very well at all.

**Kingdom** · 10/12/2007, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by irishfan86

Despite his inability to win the league at Celtic, they played very attractive, good football by all accounts.

This line worries me. "By all accounts" suggest to me, thta you never saw his Celtic team play. I didn't. All I know is that he was a manager who didn't win the league at a time when it was a 2 horse race.
Not too many people are mentioning his time at Brighton, which was not successful either.
I like him, he was a genius player, has plenty of moral courage (the anecdote about scoring the League winning penalty for the Biaconeri even though Platini was replacing him one such example), but he is not what is needed for the job.

**Paulh** · 10/12/2007, 7:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

This line worries me. "By all accounts" suggest to me, thta you never saw his Celtic team play. I didn't. All I know is that he was a manager who didn't win the league at a time when it was a 2 horse race.
Not too many people are mentioning his time at Brighton, which was not successful either.
I like him, he was a genius player, has plenty of moral courage (the anecdote about scoring the League winning penalty for the Biaconeri even though Platini was replacing him one such example), but he is not what is needed for the job.

Before moving abroad, I was a regular at Parkhead for many years including (unfortunately) Brady's time there.

I accept that the club didn't have a great deal of money at the time. However, they were simply dire under Brady. Also, any money that he did have was blown on poor signings. He spent a large proportion of the budget on Stuart Slater from West Ham who was truly awful.

The football that his team produced was of a very poor standard and Brady seem to be unable to recognise when his tactics weren't working and change them.

I understand that he has done an excellent job at the Arsenal academy and I would certainly like to see him have some role in the Ireland set-up.

However, he has failed twice as a club manager and Ireland just can't afford to take a chance this time. Frankly, I would rather have O'leary or even Venables than Brady.

My personal 1st choice would be Hodgson (by a mile) or Coppell if he was interested.

I really think that Venables will get it although I hope not. I do agree with Giles that, if Venables were truly focussed on the job, he could do well. He is certainly a fine coach and it is hard to find a player who played under him who does not rate his coaching ability.

However, it's a big gamble that he will give it 100% and be prepared to see the job through. His track record over the last 10 years doesn't inspire a lot of confidence on that front.

If he does, the FAI should demand that he is NOT allowed to write a weekly column in a tabloid while he is the manager (it was ridiculous that the English FA allowed him to do so).

**TonyD** · 10/12/2007, 9:34 PM

"be it in England or in a European country"

What continent does Delaney think England is part of then ?

**SuperDave** · 11/12/2007, 1:19 PM

"Without commenting on anyone individually, you have got to look at their RecOrd over a period of time in management," DelaneY said. "One criterion tHat I can say is that we want sOmeone who has actually manageD internationally or manaGed at a high level in termS of Premiership fOotball, be it in eNgland or in a European country. I think it is important that somebody would have managed at that level, that is one of the key criteria."

what's the point?

**shanman2** · 11/12/2007, 1:24 PM

Originally Posted by SuperDave

"Without commenting on anyone individually, you have got to look at their RecOrd over a period of time in management," DelaneY said. "One criterion tHat I can say is that we want sOmeone who has actually manageD internationally or manaGed at a high level in termS of Premiership fOotball, be it in eNgland or in a European country. I think it is important that somebody would have managed at that level, that is one of the key criteria."

what's the point?

Very Good nicely done!!!

**Ash** · 11/12/2007, 1:29 PM

Originally Posted by Paulh

Also, any money that he did have was blown on poor signings. He spent a large proportion of the budget on Stuart Slater from West Ham who was truly awful.

He was class with West Ham though