QuoteAh yes, the triumverate of Brady, O'Leary and Stapleton and not forgetting Nelson, Rice and Jennings. Arsenal was more than 50% Irish then. How times have changed. I blame it all on this EU nonsenseOriginally Posted by Stuttgart88
A 'tax free' pay day as well.
Most of that 1990 team have done well for themselves. Must be the card schooling.
Ah yes, the triumverate of Brady, O'Leary and Stapleton and not forgetting Nelson, Rice and Jennings. Arsenal was more than 50% Irish then. How times have changed. I blame it all on this EU nonsense
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
His reputation is gone to the dogs in England and consequently here. I wouldn't look down on him for one moment here. When he has no viable options there, why not move to the continent, or even further afield as he has done. If other Irish players and coaches had similar open minds and not confined themselves to the backwaters of Britain they might (and we might) be a little better off.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
Don't forget John Devine!Ah yes, the triumverate of Brady, O'Leary and Stapleton and not forgetting Nelson, Rice and Jennings. Arsenal was more than 50% Irish then. How times have changed. I blame it all on this EU nonsense
I think the point about him wanting to be a hero as the reason for putting himself forward for the final spotkick is a bit harsh. I would strongly assume that the five takers were selected prior to the start of the shoot out. The shoot out may well have been over before he even had the chance to take his pen.
I think O'Leary has what it takes to be a top manager, and I would like to see him manage Ireland some day. He has made mistakes and hopefully he will learn from them. His style of football is positive
Didn't he go and play in the Far East? Have no lasting memories of Devine in an Irish jersey although I do remember he married Michelle Rocca. Lucky man. He also played for the Hoops. Wonder what is he up to now.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
According to Wikipedia, he went to Kingfisher East Bengal in 1991, having won 13 international caps a few years earlier between 1979 and 1984, and is now assistant manager at Sporting Fingal.
Just resurfaced on MOTD2, hadn't seen him in a few years. Last I heard he was in UAE and I don't think his side were doing all that great...I think he's since left there. Anyone know what he's up to these days (aside from MOTD2)? Seems he's constantly be linked with managerial positions in the Championship (and us the last two times we had vacancies) and obviously did OK at Leeds and Villa.
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Linked to the soon-to-be-vacant Shamrock Rovers job.
Source: my imagination.
He also didn't, er, do 'Ok' at Leeds and Villa.
Ok in small doses. That's all.
Smallpox is extinct, much like O'Leary's managerial career.
Hope he proves me wrong though. He has developed a somewhat unjustifiably poor reputation since his Villa and Leeds days. Clubs almost view him as toxic . . . . . it's as if they have tarred Risdale and O'Leary with the same brush. But the bottom line was O'Leary was the manager and had no control over the club's fiscal affairs, the blame for Leed's demise fell firmly at Risdale's doorstep.
O'Leary managed Leeds for over 4 yrs and had an almost 50% win record. This is on par with Harry Redknapp who has had 3 yrs of managing Spurs. Furthermore, there is only a 6% difference in his win % with Villa compared with Martin O'Neill. Definitely not disastrous by any means. Since then he has only had 7 games in charge of an UAE outfit.
Hopefully, he'll catch a break soon because I certainly don't think he's had a fair crack at the whip
And people should bear in mind that Ridsdale seems to have no problem getting work having moved up from Plymouth Argyle to Preston North End.
On the basis of that job out in Dubai and all the controversy his managerial career in England attracted as a result of Leeds' demise, you must question whether it's worth his while getting back into English football. I'm sure he collected a nice settlement out in Dubai.
Finished 4th, 3rd, 4th, and 5th in his four seasons and Leeds and of course made the Champions League semifinal. Finished 6th, 10th, and then ultimately 16th in his three seasons at Villa. Strictly as a manager and ignoring anything off the field, aside from that last season at Villa, that could certainly be classed as doing OK.
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And he helped Leeds run up a £150 million overdraft which nearly meant the club went to the wall, FFS.
He signed numerous players the club didn't need and generally ran completely ahead of him self. Though R*dsdale is also largely to blame besides DO'L.
Way, way more the board's fault than O'Leary's. I'd say he's even less responsible than the likes of Fenlon at Shels because of how much more complicated Premier League finances are than LoI's. It was basically his job to spend the money.
Well, yes. But he didn't have to ask for players he didn't need, eg. Robbie Fowler & Seth Johnson, to name but two...
Most Leeds fans hold him in contempt for his profligate spending which is good enough for me.
Seth Johnson was coveted by a lot of clubs. He was a spectacular failure but he's no different than Eric Djemba Djemba or Kleberson in that regard.
O'Leary was given a blank checkbook and instructed to get results. He delivered. It didn't go so well at Aston Villa.
wondered what had become of seth johnson so looked up on wiki where i found this which made me laugh:
There was an interesting anecdote about Johnson's negotiations with Leeds: In his personal terms negotiations with Peter Ridsdale (then Leeds Chairman) Johnson and his agent agreed in advance to hold out for £13k a week, but Ridsdale's opening offering was in the region of £30k. When the agent balked, Ridsdale increased the offer by several thousand. Ridsdale denies some of this, claiming Johnson was given “£10,000 less than has been rumoured.”
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