QuoteWhy wouldn't he be facing the goal? I'd imagine he'd have been even further away from Henry if he'd been running backwards like you seem to be suggesting.
His positioning is bad.
Henry cheated.
That's it in a nutshell.
His positioning is very bad though.
He takes a chance by letting it bounce and hopes nobody will get in behind.
He doesn't know anyone is there because he's facing toward goal
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Why wouldn't he be facing the goal? I'd imagine he'd have been even further away from Henry if he'd been running backwards like you seem to be suggesting.
I'm sorry but that post is utter boll0x. Henry could have kept it in with his knee?????? Give over, that's absolute horse****, he needed a touch with his hand to prevent it going straight out for a goal kick and another to bring it down from just under chest height onto his foot. The ball was bouncing up higher had he not stopped it with his hand first time. His knee???? Dear me, heard it all now.Originally Posted by Fixer82
And I agree his positioning was bad but that happens regularly in most games and never gets picked up because the opposition don't cheat. No one that I spoke to at the game or on any panel I saw recordings of afterwards was pulling McShane up about the incident till Keane opened his mouth a couple of days later and the sheeple jumped on the bandwagon. I've said it before, had McShane put that out for a corner and we'd conceded from it the exact same people would have been on his case for that decision.
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The ball was bouncing out of play above chest height on the touchline, Inspector Gadget would have been struggling to control that with an outstretched right boot.
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Not if he caught it on the bounce, which is what I stated. Watch the clip again (0.35 onwards), he could 'possibly' have done that imo without the need of any assistance from quantam physics. My point here is that it was a very dangerous ball/situation versus your 'it was a wayward overhitpass going safely out for a goal kick' - I guess we wont reconcile that point and its no biggy.
Anyway, this one is going round and round in circles. I'm well able of forming my own opinions and would have the same opinion with or without Roys own views on this matter.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
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Read back what I said.I'm sorry but that post is utter boll0x. Henry could have kept it in with his knee?????? Give over, that's absolute horse****, he needed a touch with his hand to prevent it going straight out for a goal kick and another to bring it down from just under chest height onto his foot. The ball was bouncing up higher had he not stopped it with his hand first time. His knee???? Dear me, heard it all now.
And I agree his positioning was bad but that happens regularly in most games and never gets picked up because the opposition don't cheat. No one that I spoke to at the game or on any panel I saw recordings of afterwards was pulling McShane up about the incident till Keane opened his mouth a couple of days later and the sheeple jumped on the bandwagon. I've said it before, had McShane put that out for a corner and we'd conceded from it the exact same people would have been on his case for that decision.
Maybe I didn't articulate properly.
What I was saying was, for all McShane knew, Henry could have controlled it with his knee because McShane did not know Henry's position because McShane was taking a chance on letting it bounce and he was facing goal.
He should not have let it bounce and he should have been side on from goal, aware of the danger coming towards it.
If he was further back with his back to the endline he has a better view and a better attack on the incoming ball.
We are definitely going around in circles.
The fact is, if Henry hadn't cheated, McShane would have gotten away with his gamble of leaving it go out and hoping nobody was coming in behind.
But it doesn't matter at this stage really.
I like McShane, I admire his heart and his desire to play for his country any chance he gets.
i just don't think he's a very good defender.
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On this point, and to be fair to McShane, our defence was holding a line just inside the box as the free-kick came in. As a result, McShane was left running back towards the endline whilst also trying to keep an eye on the approaching ball. If he'd been positioned further back when the free-kick was taken, he'd have compromised that line. The linesman also happened to miss Squillaci standing in an off-side position.
Can we please stop talking about that bloody goal. It kills me to even think about it.
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I agree with Bonnie.
Lets look forward to the many more defensive mishaps to come...
Not to add to the 'debate', but i'm pretty sure McShane was highlighted as not doing his job by the RTE panel after the game, and I certainly felt so even while watching the replays.
It certainly wasn't un-noticed until Keane said something a couple of days later.
BBC Sport reported that he has been offered a new deal while 12 other players including Devitt have been released...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22510912
Kealan Dillon is one of ours too.
Well good for Paul they obviously think he can do a job for them, will be interesting to see how much we see
of him. Obviously not really seen anything of him whilst he has been in the Championship.
He is only 27 now so was pretty young in the Henri incident. Had he had a bit more experience at the time he might have taken Henri's head off with his elbow
Best of luck to him!
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Has got a new two year deal which is good news for him and will have the Premiership terrified!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29406623.html
McShane overcomes fan nasties claims everyones favorite paper:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/foo...d-pundit-abuse
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To be merged with the other Paul McShane thread ? He's so good he's got two threads.
Whatever his limitations, he is certainly streets ahead of Bruce's son who has taken his place in the team. Nepotism is alive and well in Hull.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
hmm, merging the two threads would render the resultant thread almost unreadable. This one is more established, with more than twice the number of pages of the other one, so I've locked the other thread and pointed at this one as the official thread
Well let's face it most threads are unreadable anyway because they consist of several different topics mangled into one with no obvious beginning or ending point for the point/issue being discussed.
And that is the issue, people discuss issues, not players, when a post about one issue is followed by a post by a separate issue (albeit by concerning the same player) it does not make sense and it hard to follow.
Locking the thread is not helpful because it makes it impossible for people to reply to particular issues raise.
The purpose of a forum is for discussion not for building one huge mangled mess of threads about one player, doing that makes it very hard to see what is being discusssed.
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