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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    If you're playing football and your striker gets himself one on one with the defender. If the striker doesn't beat the defender it goes down as a failure. Not the other way around imo.
    Don't think I would totally agree with this. There's a winner and a loser in this situation and therefore the loser fails.

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    but in the words of Nick Berry "every loser wins..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarelyLegal View Post
    Don't think I would totally agree with this. There's a winner and a loser in this situation and therefore the loser fails.
    That's like blaming a keeper for not saving a penalty, because he's the "loser" in that situation.

    McShane pushed Koller outside after O'Shea left McShane exposed at the back.

    The blame goes like this for me:

    Carelessness by O'Shea: 50% at fault
    Poor positioning by Henderson: 40% at fault
    McShane beat one on one: 10%

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    McShane has a hamstring injury. Will be out for at least two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    So he gets recalled from loan and doesn't even get on the bench for his second game back? You need to pull a Craig Bellamy son and get the hell back down to Hull! I can't believe he's a Premiership regular myself but I've seen him play a few times for Hull and he hasn't looked bad in their system.

    Yes it is a great McShame he is no longer playing first team Premiership football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    That's like blaming a keeper for not saving a penalty, because he's the "loser" in that situation.

    McShane pushed Koller outside after O'Shea left McShane exposed at the back.

    The blame goes like this for me:

    Carelessness by O'Shea: 50% at fault
    Poor positioning by Henderson: 40% at fault
    McShane beat one on one: 10%
    That's a very percise allocation of blame!! I wouldn't quite consider a keeper not saving a penalty the same thing as a defender shepperding a forward onto his stronger foot and having a clear strike at goal (unless the penalty was a very tame attempt altogether of course!!) The fact that O'Shea was at fault is completely true but McShane could have dealt with it far better too. Probably too much analysis going into this really, it was over 2 yrs ago!!

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    McShane not going to play in the Amsterdam tournament, staying in England for treatment: http://www.safc.com/news/mcshane-sit...ean-trip.html?
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    He's out for three months according to this article: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...441893,00.html

    Not the worst thing in the world, if you catch my drift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    He's out for three months according to this article: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...441893,00.html

    Not the worst thing in the world, if you catch my drift.
    confirmed by Sunderland: http://www.safc.com/news/mcshane-set...operation.html
    Having seen what he did with Titus Bramble, I would have liked to see what Bruce did with McShane.
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    Oh no what are we going to do now?
    LESS OF THE BULL NOW!

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    Perfect news.
    Either St. Ledger @ centre half or Foley @ right back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noddy102 View Post
    Perfect news.
    Either St. Ledger @ centre half or Foley @ right back then.
    I hear there's a promising fullback at Espanyol who might be breaking through there.

    Finbar, Fintan....something like that?

    Anyway, I'd put my money on that guy slotting back into the back four once he's fit.

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    I feel for sorry for the lad. Even though he can't do any damage from the treatment room and that can only be good news. But he was all set to move if you believe the rumours. A move to a Championship could have helped his career. That's his level. Everything has come to a grinding halt now for the lad.

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    Getting injured genuinely sucks, so I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

    I'd never champion him to be a starter with our current options, but he is a useful backup and I could never fault his attitude or commitment.

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    Feel sorry for the lad. Has had a miserable couple of years after looking so promising. When fit I wouldn't be surprised he ends up at Celtic, having worked very well for Tony Mobray before at WBA.
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    It may sound cold and ruthless but it's a good thing he won't play in any more qualifiers. He does more harm than good when on the pitch and that's just a fact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy View Post
    Feel sorry for the lad. Has had a miserable couple of years after looking so promising. When fit I wouldn't be surprised he ends up at Celtic, having worked very well for Tony Mobray before at WBA.
    I reckon McShane would do very well at Celtic, he'd no doubt improve as a player up there too
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhite View Post
    It may sound cold and ruthless but it's a good thing he won't play in any more qualifiers. He does more harm than good when on the pitch and that's just a fact...
    Fact is we've only ever lost one competitive game when he started - away to Czech Republic
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Fact is we've only ever lost one competitive game when he started - away to Czech Republic
    That only tells part of the story. We didn't lose to Bulgaria at home or away, but Kilbane still cost us 4 points from those 2 games. Similarly, the McShane / Keogh screw up -vs- Italy away cost us a goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb View Post
    That only tells part of the story. We didn't lose to Bulgaria at home or away, but Kilbane still cost us 4 points from those 2 games. Similarly, the McShane / Keogh screw up -vs- Italy away cost us a goal.
    I don't accept that. Whatever his degree of culpability in Sofia there is no way it could be reasonably said he cost us two points in Dublin. He absolutely had to try and play that ball. That it went in off him was unfortunate but it couldn't be let run when he'd no idea who was bearing down on it on his flank.

    Bulgaria had been knocking at the door for over an hour by then. No way he should be made carry the can for that.
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