I hope Given is back as I do not believe Henderson is good enough for the next 2 games. Potter impressed for me of the recent caps. Reid played well. Momentum for this team is good. With Carsley and hoprefully Given back we have some real hope of 4 points atleast from the next 2 games. We need to start with a quicker tempo. The slowmo stuff we played against Germany away and last night for the first 10 mins will see us a goal down and chasing the game.
I have been a critic of the farcical performance of the team (particularly in the early stages) but I have to say credit where credit is due. With the right attitude going into the big ones in two weeks, we can really take a big step towards qualification. The key is three points in slovakia and then we wont be beaten in Prague, I guarantee
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In the highly unlikely event you are wrong Tom.......what's the procedure for making a claim against the Guarantee......?
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LOL great reply hornet!
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Correct & we got away with it tonight cos the Danes were so poor. It will need to be much tighter & more comptitive in the qualifiers. Carsley will be needed. Reid can't do it all on his own.
You're right about the tempo Noely. We need to pick it up straight from the start. We're putting ourselves under pressure when we don't, particularly away. Thought Keanes two goals were excellent. Great ball by Reid for the first (good runs make good passes though). Second goal came from great crossfield pass by Reid to McGealy who delivered a great ball to the near post where Robbie Keane did what all great centre forwards do and what heir managers want hem to do. He attacked the post, distracted the keeper and got the bit of look he deserved. At the final whistle it doesn't matter how you got the goals it's how many you got. For the next game Carsley CM to start with Potter as option. Back four Finnan, McShane, Dunne and O'Shea. Hunt was disappointing last night. What's the option? Andy Reid on the left? Kilbane? I think I'd take a chance with Hunt to start. Plenty of options if it doesn't work. As for the result. Success breeds success. Haven't spoken to my Danish friends yet but I bet their not saying "sure it was only a friendly".
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what if he gets a 1-0 win there?
Did you give him credit for 1-0 v Wales and Slovakia when everyone said we'd be thumped in those games?
Will anyone ever give him credit for anything??
What about credit for the following?
-He's brought a lot of good youngsters in
-He hasnt reacted to the abuse negatively like Mclaren did
-He has kept going through the abuse and got some good results.
-The team spirit is clearly excellent after all the abuse
-good result the other night
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We played like **** against Wales and luckily got a result, we certainly did not play great against Slovakia and got a result. We played OK last night but Denmark were just god awful. Against decent opposition maybe Robbie's first could've happened (though I think it could've been saved). As for the youngsters, Doyle was first called up by Kerr, Ireland has been good but he would have been in before if he and Kerr hadn't argued, and Hunt is the only other guy to make his debut under Staunton who I can really remember has made an impact (Long has 3 very fortunate goals, I haven't been overly impressed by him). Stokes, Alan O'Brien, Kelly, etc. have still failed to do anything domestically or internationally (I guess Kelly has done decently but has never been great for Ireland). Don't be blinded by the light, he has done well not responding badly to the criticism but otherwise I will wait until November to judge.
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I have them all available, would you like to see them? You or I could've probably kept out/dealt with the first 2.
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1.) Right through the keepers hands
2,) Parried right onto his foot wide open on a shot that could've easily been caught or punched over
3.) Beat one defender who looked like he could've cared less when the match was already 3-0. I could've defended better.
Do you need the videos to remind you?
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot, he used to play hurling, I'm not allowed to say anything bad about him
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Long looked hungry & eager last night, ran every ball and tracked back when required, he was well worthy of his two goals. He's a twenty year old forward playing premiership football. I think he's a great prospect and cemented his position as our third striker.
Thats fine, I never said he was bad, and I do believe he has potential, I don't think that he's quite there yet though. He may have warranted a goal with his competitiveness but he got them through a good bit of luck instead of by doing well which isn't what I like to see. He wasn't that great against Everton last week and last night everyone looked like a superstar compared to the Danes (I can't remember that much from before that). I'd rather see Murphy or Elliott than him to be honest. However, again, I do agree that his future is bright
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I'll be delighted if he gets a 1-0 in either of those games and I'll praise him to high heaven. We looked quite brittle in both the Wales and Slovakia games and marginally better sides would've beaten us ...especially in the Welsh game.
I'll give him credit after the fact if he steers this team through the next two games gaining 3+ points ...but I still strongly believe anything this team achieves in the group will be despite him -not because of him.
...as pointed out by theworm this is something of a myth. Ireland would have been in earlier but had a petulant strop with BK because Kerr didn't pick him for an underage game in his home town that his mam and dad were coming to ...model pro ha? Elsewhere I could opine that Stan has used "bringing youngters through" as a fig-leaf for his own ineptness. He's also discarded players with real, legitimate claims to a place in the squad in favour of "youngsters" who's claims are less tangible.
He went into hiding after the San Marino farce. He, in colusion with others I don't doubt, paraded a 70-something Cancer sufferer to take the flak for him. Despicable behaviour.
What else was he going to do? Walk away from a job where he gets twice what his Czech counterpart is on and THREE TIMES what Lawrie Sanchez was on? One of the few clever things he's done.
...classic footballer wagon circling syndrome. It has it's uses but frankly I'd prefer if they were a miserable shower of grumpy-lumps who could efficiently despatch lesser opponents.
Yes ...yes it was.
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Credit for two below average performances we were in the end fortunate to win! Lets judge him on the results & performances that matter. And we, the media etc can take a fair share of that credit by forcing his hand over Carsley.
Alan O'Brien !! - He should have tried Garvin over the last 3 friendlys and probably Best too. He only called Gibson up cos of Worthington.
I've little confidence in Henderson, if we need to rely on him, I hope kenny is not performing his usual heroics back at home.
Agree with most of that except the bit about Long who took both his goals well and linked up well throughout the 2nd half. Again this came unfortunately reminds me a bit of the Sweden one last year, were fair enough we beat a relatively decent side 4-0. But the other night a better side would have managed a couple against us and had we gone behind well we just don't know. This team is a bit of a rollercoster, and I won't be anything like convinced by Stan until we see some progress were it counts, and not in an early season friendly.
Im not suggesting for one minute that Staunton is the next Cappello. But it does make me laugh that posters on here who were screaming for his resignation after the loss to Holland are now saying that a 4-0 win away from home changes nothing.
As I said before , you cant have it both ways. You cant get stuck into players and managers after a friendly loss and then just brush the next win aside as being meaningless.
I'd be willing to bet that had it been us beaten 4-0 at home and the opposition played identically to how we did, posters would not only be calling for Stauntons head , but would also praise the other side for "taking their chances" and showing some quality on the break.
ya wallis that is probably true, but those same teams would have been on a roll or won games expected of them in the past, and used that game to go on and play better in a competitive match, and also learned a great deal from the game. Time will only tell if the latter is the case here, but until then we will still remain cautious ( ive tried to spell that 3 times and it still doesnt look right ) as we have seen this team act like a rollercoaster the last year or so.
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I don't think Ireland would have been in the team much earlier than he was. Ireland only broke through to the Man City side during Brian Kerr's end of days. The very earliest game he would have been considered for is the Cyprus 1-0 win and Swiss 1-1 double header, after some very encouraging performances for City including a MOTM award. I pointed out at the time that the media jumped on the history between Kerr and Ireland to fill column space because the players weren't speaking to them at the time, and there was no "Robbie Keane drunk on his birthday 5 days before a game" style stories to make up the difference.
He called Gibson into the squad for San Marino, and he played for the B team against Scotland last November, almost 9 months before Worthington was appointed
Very true Paul.
I have to say that on the back of this result I feel a lot more positive going into the last few games, but as you say , time will tell..
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