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    2023: GOAL Denmark 0-4 Republic of Ireland
    Clever play from Aiden McGeady before a very nice turn and finish from Shane Long. That's the substitute's second of the night. Denmark are supposed to be good.
    and who knew long and mcgeady would be playing in 16 years time! bloody clairvoyant bbc!
    illiteracy and alphabet soup hmm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    Lads there will always be disputes between the pessimists and the optomists. Some people like to see the glass half full and others half empty. In the wise words of Paul McCartney, Let it be.
    How dare you tell me to Let it be!

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    Just a bit of nitpicking: I don't think the first goal was against the run of play. We had an awful first 10 minutes but had settled and actually started to gain control by the time Robbie scored.

    I was in email contact with one of the posters here earlier and said that I think that despite a generally good showing I still am unsure about that midfield in a physical competitive game. My criticism of the Cyprus midfield was that Ireland needs to be accompanied by a physical AND comfortable ball player. KK is physical but not a CM. Potter is accomplished with the ball, and tall but wasn't tested in the cut & thrust of a "real" match.

    I maintain that Henderson was unlucky eraly on - a great catch but he had to come through a few players on the way down with his hands well ahead of him. Only if he'd had time to take it into his chest could he have held it. I'm being generous here I suppose but the error was very understandable.

    Hunt wasn't great which is a shame. I still think I'd have him in there though. Stan's got a tough job on his hands picking the best XI & he definitely has some decisions to make.

    I only saw the last 30 mins of Germany and thought they were poor. Wasn't impressed by Kuranyi at all. Ball retention was appalling and they conceded a handful of gilt-edged chances. Maybe they were better early on, but of course they were missing a few of their best players. They were bloody big though.

    Wales had a very good win, it's worth pointing out.

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    I maintain that Henderson was unlucky eraly on - a great catch but he had to come through a few players on the way down with his hands well ahead of him. Only if he'd had time to take it into his chest could he have held it. I'm being generous here I suppose but the error was very understandable.
    There is two ways of reading this, and i never really played in goals, but coming from a gaelic football viewpoint, when jumping for a ball you dont jump behind someone, you put your foot in front of them and use your bodyweight to get in front and THEN jump. Henderson jumped from behind oshea with his arms outstrechted above ( and around ) osheas head, rather than catching from a dropping height ( the ball wasnt coming down rather across ), he needed to step a half a foot further forward before jumping and he would have prevented this. Thats experience though, so if he has learnt from it its the most important thing.

    I can see why the indo possibly gave reid only 6, because a lot of his passes did go astray at the same time, i think we read into those 2 goals and assumed he was man of the match, though they were sublime!


    I only saw the last 30 mins of Germany and thought they were poor. Wasn't impressed by Kuranyi at all. Ball retention was appalling and they conceded a handful of gilt-edged chances. Maybe they were better early on, but of course they were missing a few of their best players. They were bloody big though.
    Yes, but they still won. They always do ( or at least draw ).

    Hunt would be good in a game where we are trying to hold onto a lead, rather than a game where we are trying to create scores( so i wouldnt have him starting in slovakia at least ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Just a bit of nitpicking: I don't think the first goal was against the run of play. We had an awful first 10 minutes but had settled and actually started to gain control by the time Robbie scored.

    I was in email contact with one of the posters here earlier and said that I think that despite a generally good showing I still am unsure about that midfield in a physical competitive game. My criticism of the Cyprus midfield was that Ireland needs to be accompanied by a physical AND comfortable ball player. KK is physical but not a CM. Potter is accomplished with the ball, and tall but wasn't tested in the cut & thrust of a "real" match.

    I maintain that Henderson was unlucky eraly on - a great catch but he had to come through a few players on the way down with his hands well ahead of him. Only if he'd had time to take it into his chest could he have held it. I'm being generous here I suppose but the error was very understandable.

    Hunt wasn't great which is a shame. I still think I'd have him in there though. Stan's got a tough job on his hands picking the best XI & he definitely has some decisions to make.

    I only saw the last 30 mins of Germany and thought they were poor. Wasn't impressed by Kuranyi at all. Ball retention was appalling and they conceded a handful of gilt-edged chances. Maybe they were better early on, but of course they were missing a few of their best players. They were bloody big though.

    Wales had a very good win, it's worth pointing out.
    I was impressed with how they weathered the early pressure and began to get a foothold in the game and resisted the temptation to play deep. Danish mistakes helped them gain the foothold yet there was much to be encouraged about.

    This will stand them in good stead for the Eastern games as I'd imagine the Slovaks will throw everything at us from the start. The confidence to retain possession and be creative will be crucial.

    For the first time in what seems like literally years, he's a couple of options in relation to who populates centre midfield - Andy Reid, Stephen Reid (may not be match fit in time) Carsley, Ireland, Potter, Kilbane.

    I thought the full backs were below par last night. Finnan, in fairness, was played on the wrong side and Carr continues to add evidence to the view that his better days are behind him.

    In relation to the Germans - Germany's second goal was a great strike from distance. I suppose we'll worry about negotiaing the Eastern games before we contemplate Germany but I've a sneaking suspicion we could cause their back four problems. We'll come back to that one....................
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    Great result last night glad to see Keane on the score sheet and having a very good game.
    My main concern last night was Finnan playing on the left, the Danish cross that resulted in a header that hit the crossbar early on, a left footed player wouldn't have let him go round so easy or get the cross in. It is nothing against Finnan, you can see on the replay he just pokes a right foot at it then is off balance and skinned. Hopefully we can get at least 4 points out of the next 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    Lads there will always be disputes between the pessimists and the optomists. Some people like to see the glass half full and others half empty. In the wise words of Paul McCartney, Let it be.
    The real issue here - is that the glass is twice the size it needs to be...
    Kom Igen, FCK...

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    It was a solid enough proformance against a real poor Denmark side, but for once, Ireland took their chances, Ireland rarely score 2 goals away from against any decent opposition, so it is good from that point of view. The defence looked pretty firm, Dunne was super again, O'Shea was a bit lazy at times and Dunne had to cover for him a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Réiteoir View Post
    The real issue here - is that the glass is twice the size it needs to be...
    Could be that the atmospheric pressure on the water is too high...
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    Pretty much concur with what TheBoss said a couple of posts back. Great to see us win a game comfortably but we shouldn't let ourselves get carried away over it either.

    The lad in goal for Denmark had a bad night and they should have had a honky-tonk piano going whenever he was shown.

    He was actually quite unlucky for Robbies second -he'd got his hands to it, Robbie had dived at fresh air and the keeper went and bounced it off Robbies face and in it went.
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    Who is to say that Robbie was not following the natural instinct of "anticipating the mistake"

    Anyway, it was good move with the ball hit into a danger area, Robbie flying in, a distraction plus a hinderance to the goalkeepers attempts to clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Who is to say that Robbie was not following the natural instinct of "anticipating the mistake"

    Anyway, it was good move with the ball hit into a danger area, Robbie flying in, a distraction plus a hinderance to the goalkeepers attempts to clear.
    Even I couldn't claim he was anticipating that!

    Very good football though. I thought our opening goals were all down to McGeady, Reid and Keane understanding each other which has got to be good. For the second, it was a good cross, Keane attacked the space well and we got a bit of luck for it to go in.

    I think McGeady deserves great credit for the first, effortlessly taking down and turning after a waist high pass from Carr (?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    The lad in goal for Denmark
    He played in goal for Rangers in a CL game a few years back. Venables was on ITV and kept referring to him as "Simonsen" as if all Danes were called Simonsen. God I hate Venables, Stan may have his critics but I couldn't have tolerated Venables.

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    I really enjoyed the game and especially the result. What is rare is wonderful.

    The good
    Reid's passing (even if it was a bit hit and miss)
    Dunne's attitude (a great tackle in the penalty area after the whistle went)
    McGeady first time he has 'played' for Ireland
    Keane's goals
    Long's goals

    The bad
    Finnan at 'left' fb (must play right)
    Carr sad to see him play so poorly
    Potter never ruled midfield (how long can Carsley keep going)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy View Post
    Just curious . . . but what would Keane fetch now if he was transferred? Yakubu is going for £11m and Bent goes for £16m. Just curious. 31 international goals, not far off Michael Owen standards.
    i would say he's valued at the 8m mark (which is probably also true of Doyle) The calc is simple, just figure out the real value, then subtract 6m cos he's irish.

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    Dunne's attitude (a great tackle in the penalty area after the whistle went)

    rozendhal (or am I making that up?) had slowed way down, thats the only reason he was able make the tackle!!!
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    Bendtner then.

    Btw i didnt mean rommedahl, he left charlton didnt he?
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    Last nights game reminded me of the Sweden one from February last year, in that for all the good things that can come out of a 4-0 victory a better side on a better night could have scored a few against us. The positives were the new lads on show, they all looked full of confidence and like to get on the ball and play, Reids return was encouraging as was the performance of Richard Dunne. The negatives were Carr and the fact that we're having to resort to O'Shea at CB due to a lack of options. I can handle O'Shea at fullback or even grafting in midfield but at CB I just think he's an accident waiting to happen.

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    I doubt it.
    Pity Stan did not play Kilbane at LB a bit longer.
    It's ominous that Finnan is playing at LB.

    Carr could be sharper but I thought in the 2nd half he improved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy View Post
    The sight of Carr in an Ireland shirt pains me. One prize **** if ever there was one. Hope we've seen the last of him.
    You'd hope but I doubt it meself. Personally I don't have a massive problem with Finnan at LB, he's done it before and he's fairly comfortable on his left foot but if its being done for the sole purpose of accomodating Carr in the side then whats the f**kin point?

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