QuoteI think you are wrong here:
Derry City must win the FAI Cup to get that place, if they do not win, than St Pats get it. Its a new rule that UEFA have put in, the team must win the Cup in order to avail of the place.
Yes, Derry City will take the Europa League spot for the FAI Cup so you will enter one round after the two qualifiers from the league - St. Pat's and whoever comes fourth (assuming they have a licence).Originally Posted by Maribor
I think you are wrong here:
Derry City must win the FAI Cup to get that place, if they do not win, than St Pats get it. Its a new rule that UEFA have put in, the team must win the Cup in order to avail of the place.
I'm 99% sure that the rule about having to win the cup to get the place was proposed but never actually implemented. That is the reason why a win for Galway yesterday would have ensured them a Europa League place..
I thought that came in next year?
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Yes, thats correct. UEFA changed their minds.
i think (not 100% sure ) that the rule was passed but not sure if it kicks in this season or next
I wish i did not know then what I dont know now
Yeah that was what I though too, it's only from next year.
Derry do NOT need to win the FAI cup to qualify for the Europa Cup. UEFA changed their minds. http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com...ded.4535784.jp
So what's the story with next season's qualification? I think I have it right (as things stand):
CL- Bohs
UEFA (cup)- Derry
UEFA (L1)- Pats
UEFA (L2)- Sligo
Intertoto- Shamrock
Theres no intertoto.
Also it depends if we get a Uefa license or not. Hasnt been clarified if we're automatically banned for 3 years.
I expect we wont get one but its not certain
If Bohs do the double and Pats finish second, my understanding is that Pats will enter Europa Cup at QF2 and Derry at QF1. This is a distinct and different rule to whether the losing Cup finalists can enter Europe at all.
At least I think thats what Michael Hayes said in the Fans Forum.
Hopefully won't be necessary, although from a coefficient perspective, both Pats and Derry have the same club coefficient so there's no difference to seeding.
There actually is. If the breakof point between being seeded and not being seeded happens at a point where two teams have the same seeding co-efficient, preference is given to the club which gains entry to europe via the cup spot.
.......and as stated above, that will be either Pats or Derry, who have the same club coefficient.....
Derry have qualified for Europe. Runners up in the Cup are allowed into the Europea Cup. UEFA reversed their decision.
I'm not disputing this, see below for my previous post.
My understanding (straight from the horses mouth) is that cup losers will qualify where League winner wins cup, but won't get into QF2, that privilege will revert to 2nd in the League. If you know different maybe you can tell me where you are getting your info from?
Resurecting the Coef thread
Tonight's results are goos for the league - HJK were knocked out - so Finland and ourselves have just 2 representatives left.
& after tonights games I think we have just moved ahead of them on the 2010 access list:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2010.html
After the update I think Finland will have 9.124 points & Ireland will have 9.166 - moving us up to 29th provisionally.
http://trophymanager.com/?c=489688
Trophy Manager - online football managment game - I like it - I think I'm getting obsessed with it though.
If we get up to 29 we would have an extra team in the Europa Cup next season, entering at the 3rd qualifying round.
No we wouldn't, we would need to get up to 15th to get an extra team into Europe. The next significant goal is 27th which would guarantee our Cup Winner entering at the QR3 of the Eurpopa League (29th would do if the title holder was already qualified - like how Derry got a 'bye' this year).
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...ccess2009.html
That's what I was looking at.
Does that not show four teams for 29th place at the moment?
Yes, one CL and 3 EL. But we have that at the moment anyway.
The reason it shows two 'CW' spots though is because the title holder had already qualified so therefore the cup winners from 28th and 29th got a bye into EL QR3 - for the same reason that 'N2' of 35th (Derry City) and 36th got a bye into EL QR2.
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