eL players you consider good enough for Ireland

**Krstic** · 21/03/2007, 9:36 AM

Lads in my opinion, kevin Deery isn't even good enough to play for Derry City never mind Ireland.
He's the most over rated player on this planet, and has been living off a few wonder goals.

From the Derry set up I'd say only Barry Molloy is anywhere near good enough to play for Ireland (although not based on his performance last night)

**galwayhoop** · 21/03/2007, 10:10 AM

i don't think that 'duh gaffer' will pick any eL players but bearing in mind the ease of transition of players from the eL to both england and scotland players in the eL should definately be at least considered for our 'problem positions' i.e. LB and CM. with this in mind who are the best LB and CM in the eL and are they good enough?

**Ceirtlis** · 21/03/2007, 12:46 PM

bearing in mind the ease of transition of players from the eL to both england and scotland players in the eL

I think you are over stating how good the el players abroad have actually done here. The top goalscorer in the el Jason Byrne from the last 4 seasons is still only a sub with Cardiff who only have one main striker (he was a subbed sub at the weekend). The player of the league from 2 years ago is a sub George O'Callaghan with Ipswich who are very much mid-table. Of the boys that went to Motherwell Danny Murphy is the only one to have made an impression on the first team and Bobby Ryan got taken off at half time in one game and has rarely been seen since. I dont want to be negative here, there have been a few success stories, Stephen Ward, Daryl Murphy(last year i know),Sean Dillon and Colin Hawkins have played regularly but i would be very disappointed if at least a few players didnt make it. What people must remember that all clubs in the english leagues and scottish league and have been full-time for a long time and that the eircom prem is just under half part-time. The conference division probably has a greater ratio of full-time sides.

**Dodge** · 21/03/2007, 12:51 PM

I wouldn't have any one of the national side's midfield ahead of Keith Fahey at the moment. Gareth Farrelly and Alan Moore both wona fair few caps for Ireland and came into the LOI at a decent age and both looked out of their depth.

**Da Real Rover** · 21/03/2007, 2:26 PM

Our keeper last year was more than capable for an international call up, imo one of the best keepers in the league and didnt get enough credit he deserved.

**hoggy** · 21/03/2007, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by McShels

Does Divine qualify to play for Ireland? On a similar thread on the Shels forum last year it was thought that he doesn't qualify.

No, he doesn't. Cobh declared independence a few years back.

**galwayhoop** · 21/03/2007, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by hoggy

No, he doesn't. Cobh declared independence a few years back.

are they a breakaway from the 'Peoples Republic of Cork' or do they come under its rule?

**Jerry The Saint** · 21/03/2007, 2:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I wouldn't have any one of the national side's midfield ahead of Keith Fahey at the moment. Gareth Farrelly and Alan Moore both wona fair few caps for Ireland and came into the LOI at a decent age and both looked out of their depth.

I think the problem with players like Fahey (and O'Callaghan) is that they're not going to be able to impose themselves in a major international fixture and are unlikely to be able to play their usual game. Barry Ryan is probably a more realistic shout.

**michaelguineys** · 21/03/2007, 2:52 PM

they are most definitely break away!!!

**Cluba06** · 21/03/2007, 3:17 PM

iv seen a few matches live on tv setanta cup included and went to matches in dublin and drog and i have to say that the standard of play has been quite poor of late so i feel no players deserve to be near called up at the moment maybe when the league progresses a wee bit and the players get into the swing of things

**Dodge** · 21/03/2007, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by Cluba06

iv seen a few matches live on tv setanta cup included and went to matches in dublin and drog and i have to say that the standard of play has been quite poor of late so i feel no players deserve to be near called up at the moment maybe when the league progresses a wee bit and the players get into the swing of things

It should be pointed out that these games are the first of our season. And whatever about the standard, there's nobody can make me change my mind that Ireland have a better midfielder than Keith Fahey at the moment (and on last years form Fahey would be behind Gamble, Molloy, Martyn and Byrne plus a couple others maybe) This year, already, he's been sensational.

Jerry, none of them are realistic. Not a hope in hell of a LOI player being called up when we have the sub keeper for the u21s being called up ahead of the first choice u21 keeper because he plays for Charlton reserves and not UCD

**pete** · 21/03/2007, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by michaelguineys

they are most definitely break away!!!

They are Kosovo to our Serbia.

I think all the eL players to move abroad this close season came from fulltime positions in largely fulltime clubs.

The SPL is hopeless & the Championship is varying standard. The best of the crop went to the Championship & I think few top eL players will move to the SPl preferring to stay in the eL and wait for Championship opportunity if it arrives...

**monutdfc** · 21/03/2007, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Gareth Farrelly and Alan Moore both wona fair few caps for Ireland and came into the LOI at a decent age and both looked out of their depth.

I'd disagree with that Dodge. When fit (which was not very often) Farrelly was as good as if not better than any midfielder in the league.

Dominic Foley looked like the worst player in the league when he first arrived, but when he realised he couldn't coast it in the league and started applyinig himself he was outstanding.

**Rory H** · 21/03/2007, 4:16 PM

in this league new players emerge every year that look good enough,most of the last crop are in england now so the new crop will be coming on...already from what ive seen this season the galway and cork left backs look like they could make it.....

**TheBoss** · 21/03/2007, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

McCourt??

Considering he was in the Stands

ON SUNDAY!

He has played 1 game for the Northern Ireland Team

**bellavistaman** · 21/03/2007, 5:09 PM

i honestly think john o flynn at his 100% best is good enough. mick devine overweight? what does that make paddy kenny?

**Dodge** · 21/03/2007, 8:09 PM

Originally Posted by monutdfc

I'd disagree with that Dodge. When fit (which was not very often) Farrelly was as good as if not better than any midfielder in the league.

Dominic Foley looked like the worst player in the league when he first arrived, but when he realised he couldn't coast it in the league and started applyinig himself he was outstanding.

I'll admit Foley was decent at the finish but seen Farrelly play a few times and think he played well once. I'm not saying he couldn't do it, just wouldn't pick him ahead of Byrne, Martyn etc

Nobody going to try defend Moore