Shelbourne FC Demoted to First Division - All Purpose Thread

**soccerc** · 19/02/2007, 11:16 PM

Waterford United has not been informed of any change in its league status following the decision of the First Instance Committee to withdraw a Premier License from Shelbourne FC according to a statement just issued

It goes on to say that "While it may be a sad day for Irish football, it also underscores the credibility of the club licensing system. Waterford United committed itself to the IAG selection process last season and accepted the decisions of this committee in December. Now that there has been a change of circumstances in the premier division, it is Waterford United’s view that given the ranking by the IAG, the club is next in line for a place in the new FAI eircom league Premier Division.

The club will be seeking immediate clarification of its options in the wake of this evening’s decision by the First Instance Committee and will consider such options as soon as possible. In the meantime the club‘s management and players will continue to prepare for the new season as normal".

**The Man Himself** · 19/02/2007, 11:20 PM

waterford united deserve to go up,
they did everything by the book and stuck with the rules.

infact they deserve to be there ahead of rovers and galway who bought their way back into the premier.

UP THE BLUES

**Raheny Red** · 19/02/2007, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Yes, you're right.

Still, a lot of people - especially on the Shels board - are acting almost as this is the end of all their troubles. I can see things going downhill further from here...

I know

alot think we'll easily win the first and then back in Europe in no time

**R�iteoir** · 19/02/2007, 11:22 PM

Just gonna merge this with the massive general thread on this whole issue

**Guitd** · 19/02/2007, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by A face

But what about the playoffs

EDIT: Whole tranche of a rant on how play-offs counted towards IAG positions only and not actual elevation to the Premier

**Lim till i die** · 19/02/2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Man Himself

waterford united deserve to go up,
they did everything by the book and stuck with the rules.

infact they deserve to be there ahead of rovers and galway who bought their way back into the premier.

UP THE BLUES

Waaaaaaterford didn't even put on a pretence of an effort last year as they thought their boy in Dublin would sort them out. Another shambles if they go up instead of Dundalk tbh

**Carotheplayer** · 19/02/2007, 11:26 PM

The IAG pole should rule supreme. That is what everyone agreed on. This means Waterford are the natural selection (at this late stage I can't see much delight at joining the Premier when you have focused all your energy towards the First Division)

The next nightmare is the fixtures, with appeals and the like how long more do we have to wait. You never know the flippin High Court might just line out for a second time. Oh Lord me thinks another disaster is looming.

Role on March 9th (we'll probably get fixtures by midnight March 8th)

**R�iteoir** · 19/02/2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Guitd

EDIT: Whole tranche of a rant on how play-offs counted towards IAG positions only and not actual elevation to the Premier

He was being sarcastic to be honest

Originally Posted by The Man Himself

infact they deserve to be there ahead of rovers and galway who bought their way back into the premier.

Back that statement up with facts - or withdraw it

**BlueAsItGoes** · 19/02/2007, 11:33 PM

Waterford United has not been informed of any change in its league status following the decision of the First Instance Committee to withdraw a Premier License from Shelbourne FC according to a statement just issued

St Francis..... let me say it 1 more time I know for an absolute fact even though Waterford United have said that there is no change in there situation at the moment that they HAVE been offered a place in the Premier League next season... I have heard it from 3 Management Committee members now.. they are only trying to keep things quiet here for the time being while they decide what to do.

**Louth4sam** · 19/02/2007, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by BlueAsItGoes

St Francis..... let me say it 1 more time I know for an absolute fact even though Waterford United have said that there is no change in there situation at the moment that they HAVE been offered a place in the Premier League next season... I have heard it from 3 Management Committee members now.. they are only trying to keep things quiet here for the time being while they decide what to do.

Would you really want to go up? I dont want Dundalk to go up as its too late we've signed players to try and win the first division and all preparations have been made for that. I think its too late for us to go up now as we could struggle in the premier.

**The Man Himself** · 19/02/2007, 11:41 PM

up the blues.

to all you begrugers out there" live with it, the blues are back.

**TheBoss** · 19/02/2007, 11:43 PM

I think the FAI have finally made a decent decision. There was no way they could be in the PL with only 4 players at the moment and some debts, I think a points penalty aswell should have been imposed, to make it hard for them to get into the PL, to teach them a lesson about getting into this mess.

PS: I think Derry would have done better in Europe anyway of last seasons squads.

**BlueAsItGoes** · 19/02/2007, 11:45 PM

Yes I would like to go up... I think the Management committee should take the chance they have been given.....

**Student Mullet** · 19/02/2007, 11:54 PM

May I object to the title of the thread? Shels haven't been relegated, they've simply been not invited to participate in a league which they were provisionally invited to participate in, based on a set of criteria agreed in advance by all parties.

There's no faaaaaaaaaaaaaaarce here.

**R�iteoir** · 20/02/2007, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Student Mullet

May I object to the title of the thread? Shels haven't been relegated, they've simply been not invited to participate in a league which they were provisionally invited to participate in, based on a set of criteria agreed in advance by all parties.

There's no faaaaaaaaaaaaaaarce here.

Title revised

**Student Mullet** · 20/02/2007, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Title revised

For the record, I was joking.

**R�iteoir** · 20/02/2007, 12:20 AM

And you actually did have a point - it's like saying that Shamrock Rovers and Galway were "promoted" - they weren't - they were invited.

As is here - no relegation - but a demotion, yes.

**wexfordned** · 20/02/2007, 12:26 AM

It appears that alot of shels mb posters want the decision appealed. can't see how they can complain:

They submitted their application, committee wasn't happy so they asked for explantions & only then when they felt their explanations didn't add up did they decide to relegate them. Personally I would have included a points penalty as well.

Also the last thing the league needs is to be dragged through the courts again & shels are in no position to go splashing out on court fees

**superblues** · 20/02/2007, 12:34 AM

The Blues and Dundalk may well have planned for the first division, but i think either of them would easily hold there own in the premier next season. Along with a few other current first division teams. They have been busy building squads while other prem teams have been falling apart!!

**SwanVsDalton** · 20/02/2007, 1:58 AM

Relief...of a sort. I left for work having read the worrying rumours of Shels inexplicitly remaining in the Premier but a semblance of sense. I genuinely hope Shels can get it together now though, like Pineapple Stu, I reckon this could be only the beginning. Sorry First Division but i'm glad whatever drama is yet to play out at Tolka won't be sodomising the already traumatised Premier.