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    Limerick - Possible Legal Action by Danny Drew

    Article from RTE suggesting Danny Drew may make legal challenge to all sorts... http://www.rte.ie/sport/2007/0104/limerick.html?rss

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    Like it or not he probably has grounds to make a fairly decent attack on the powers that be.
    Last edited by A face; 04/01/2007 at 7:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooperatzi View Post
    what did the FAI do legally wrong here? they refused to give a licence because repairs werent done. they werent done because no grant was forthcoming because Limerick FC have no lease.

    While Fr Young seems to be playing hardball, we cannot have a professional club in without a board of directors. Let them stick to the licencing for once.
    No no no no your wrong on all counts. DD has a case as limerick were gaining the lease which would have enabled them to pull down the grants last summer however the FAI stepped in and struck a deal with youngs local advisors to gain the lease on behalf of the FAI. This meant that the ground was now the responsablility of the FAI so why should Limerick/DD be dinied anything such as a licance if the fai owned ground was the issue? And btw the club/DD was failed on infastructural issues ie the ground. All other rumblings from marrion square at the time were smoke screens. Now the dog on the street know that Delaney refused the licence because of his relationship or lack of it with DD. A personal issue which is bringing the club down which could bring the league down if DD wins. Your right about one thing, lets stick to the licencing, which Delaney failed to do not limerick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooperatzi View Post

    Why did Young offer it to the FAI and not DD? He doesnt trust him with it
    In fairness you don't seem to have a clue about how much of a swindling **** Father Joe Young is. Young played the FAI off Danny to see how much power/money he could get his grubby little hands on. Everything this man does is for his own gain, and not for the 'children of Southill' as he often says. He's ripped people off in the past, he's doing it presently and he'll do it in the future if given half a chance. It has nothing to do with Young not trusting Drew that he didn't give us the lease, Young would hand it to the Americans to build a concentration camp on if he thought it would better his interests around here

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    DD made a lot of enemies in Merrion Square. I imagine the FAI would have little trouble justifying why they didn't give Limerick a licence. I can't see a legal action succeeding. However I wonder if he had a different relationship with those in Merrion Square would the club still have been given a bit of leeway. It's easy to look back with hindsight but there are no winners here.

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    I can see it now. Limerick win court case so get licence back. Limerick then ejected from the FAI League as going to the courts is breach of League participation agreement.
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    dont think they are been asked to sign particapation agreement pete but I think dd case is simple he was not granted a licence on the grounds that that there ground was not up to spec however many other grounds are not up to proper spec and been awarded licences
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by passerrby View Post
    dont think they are been asked to sign particapation agreement pete but I think dd case is simple he was not granted a licence on the grounds that that there ground was not up to spec however many other grounds are not up to proper spec and been awarded licences
    Thats the important bit for me.
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    Wasn't there a quote elsewhere which said that Limerick failed on every aspect apart from their ground? I'll try and dig it up.

    Edit - hmmm...can't find it. Don't think I imagined it, but anyways.

    Best of luck to Limerick on this one, I say. Licencing is a farce, and if Shels and Dublin City can get one, there's no reason why Limerick shouldn't be given one (I don't for a second acecpt the whole "new dawn" theory as Licencing was always controlled by the FAI). It's particularly strange if the ground and the lease is the issue if that's supposed to be the FAI's problem.

    Alas, any hopes that another good scandal would hasten Delaney's exit are probably a bit wide of the mark, but still...
    Last edited by pineapple stu; 05/01/2007 at 8:04 PM.

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    That's the problem we've had with the FAI on this one, they said the ground wasn't up to scratch, and then said that they'd be willing to let another Limerick team use it as basis for their licence application. Then they say that Limerick failed on many items, but never told us exactly what they were. So the last few weeks has been spent speculating as to why we failed, was it Delaney's dislike of Drew, or because we didn't deserve to get one.

    Personally I'm sure we failed to meet the criteria set down by the flawed licence committee, but then again I'm sure a few other clubs would have if it had been carried out to the letter of the law too. Still if it gets Danny away from Limerick FC than Delaney's underhanded tactics are okay in my book

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    It would be better if they settle the arguement out of court, the FAI can not make their already shamble repetition get even worse, just give Limerick the License and every one is happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    It would be better if they settle the arguement out of court, the FAI can not make their already shamble repetition get even worse, just give Limerick the License and every one is happy.
    thats just everything that's currently wrong with liscencing in a nutsehll - the "ah sure it'll be grand" attitude.

    im behind the fai on this one, so long as their active in recruting a new limerick based team and give them the tools/support to get off the ground, which, to be fair they have so far. the fact is limerick were not, and have not been in good shape for a long time, and with the potential there it was inexcusable. now i know theres a lot of other teams in bad shape also but show me one club who are currently worse run than limerick - with a large, regionally significant catchment area who are perennial first division strugglers and havent had a ground or lease on a ground, and by all accounts prior to the liscencing failure were out of money anyways (drew was pimping the club to all and sundry for investment) and then you can call what the fai are doing as underhand and personal. (and dont mention shels cos in all honesty the fai were not/could not take the league chamions and most sucessful club over the las ten years... and anyways they're doin a fine job themselves in ensuring they wont be around in a few years )
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    Is it possible to support both sides in this case? I hope Limerick challenge the FAI an I hope that the FAI are forced to defend all their licensing decisions.

    If the FAI have done everything properly, they have nothing to fear. If they have ever fudged an issue, it should be exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Student Mullet View Post
    Is it possible to support both sides in this case?
    I suppose it's possible to say that the FAI may well be correct in their decision to deny Limerick a licence (I don't know one way or ther other, but certainly Limerick would be running the gauntlet close), but that their action in kicking Limerick out of the league is wrong. I don't see what benefit it would bring to the league to kick out an established team and try to bring in another one. Appropriate punishments would include Dublin City being denied promotion last year, Shels getting docked, say, ten points last season for financial irregularities and Cork getting docked maybe 5, but no team should be kicked out of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I suppose it's possible to say that the FAI may well be correct in their decision to deny Limerick a licence (I don't know one way or ther other, but certainly Limerick would be running the gauntlet close), but that their action in kicking Limerick out of the league is wrong. I don't see what benefit it would bring to the league to kick out an established team and try to bring in another one. Appropriate punishments would include Dublin City being denied promotion last year, Shels getting docked, say, ten points last season for financial irregularities and Cork getting docked maybe 5, but no team should be kicked out of the league.
    Are they not the same thing?

    I agree with you that it is strange to kick one side, an established side, out of the league and take a chance on a new team.

    Also, I find it annoying that the FAI, who were pretty inflexible regarding Limerick FC, are willing to help out new teams to get things up to eL standard.

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    No team/club has been kicked out of the league.
    The Eircom League ceased last November.
    As far as I was led to understand the league disbanded.
    The new League run by the FAI has sent out invitations to established clubs to join. And an offer to newly formed clubs that pass the approval of the FAI.
    If a contract was signed to be a part of the new League then Limerick could have an issue. But if the agreement that was signed/approved by the clubs was only to disband the Eircom League then that would be a different issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    Are they not the same thing?
    I think the official action taken against Shamrock Rovers in 2004 was to revoke their licence and give them an 8-point penalty, so it appears that kicking someone out of the league is not the only course of action available to a team who fail to get a licence.

    Quote Originally Posted by sniffa View Post
    No team/club has been kicked out of the league.
    The Eircom League ceased last November.
    I think you're reading far too much into this whole merger and disbanding thingy. Far all intents and purposes, the league is continuing as it ever has done. The FAI have always had power over licencing, and still do, so nothing has changed in that regard. Kicking someone out of the league is really the exact same as not letting into the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Kicking someone out of the league is really the exact same as not letting into the league.
    If they were never in it how could they be kicked out of it?
    Has any club received their " invitation" to join the new League?

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    Again, you're taking the view that this new league is some super duper new fangled thing. It's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniffa View Post
    The Eircom League ceased last November.
    As far as I was led to understand the league disbanded.
    The new League run by the FAI has sent out invitations to established clubs to join.
    Quote Originally Posted by sniffa View Post
    If they were never in it how could they be kicked out of it?
    Has any club received their " invitation" to join the new League?
    The league is the same league it always was, the difference is the FAI are in charge.

    Where the fúck are you getting this invitation crap from?

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