Are we in the premiership already?

**GUISAUltra** · 24/10/2006, 11:54 AM

theres way way too much criteria to meet to have to get into this new league. i woke up this morning to a text message saying that there will be play-offs and that if we dont get into them, we cant get promoted. now i find out the play-off will only help point allocation.

the sooner this league is over and they announce there final decision on whos gonna be in this league the better because everybody seems to have different opinions on whats gonna happen and new things keep popping out of nowhere

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 1:26 PM

playoff what???!?!!?

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 1:28 PM

seems like first will def get promoted and second will be left a bit vague depending on who plays the playoff - in my reckoning

**eamo1** · 24/10/2006, 4:40 PM

this is a joke right?????where the hell did this come out of???

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 4:42 PM

no eamo check any irish football site today and its on it

as i was saying if the right team isint first then this play off rubbish can be spewed to get them up...

**eamo1** · 24/10/2006, 4:54 PM

if a certain MASSIVE CLUB FROM TALLAGHT dont get up by winning the league they will have the playoff to try and win,what i wouldnt give to beat them in/to the playoff(depending the format of it),how sweet would that be

.what a joke though,i just hope the clubs got more prior knowledge then us fans did.

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 4:56 PM

exactly

**eamo1** · 24/10/2006, 4:58 PM

the FAI one is a joke for e.l news.

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 5:04 PM

eleven-a-side.com and the official GUFC site

**Patrick Dunne** · 24/10/2006, 5:27 PM

Regardless of what happens, we won't be playing Shamrock Rovers in any play-off.

The play-off is between the 2nd team in the FD and the 11th team in the PD.

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 5:33 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne

Regardless of what happens, we won't be playing Shamrock Rovers in any play-off.

The play-off is between the 2nd team in the FD and the 11th team in the PD.

i think eamo was on about beating them into third place so it would be GUFC against the prem team - not na raugairi

**Tir Oilean** · 24/10/2006, 6:02 PM

Does this mean were not goin to get up if we finish in third or is this playoff thing just a suggestion in the event of Shams not goin up on points etc?

Am I right in thinking that the presentation was a complete waste of time for Nial and his team if its going to a play off?

I'm getting a bit suspicious of handing over the league to the FAI. They keep changing the goalposts. I'll have to read more about this and the joke seems to be that its not on the FAI website.

**John83** · 24/10/2006, 6:17 PM

Originally Posted by eamo1

this is a joke right?????where the hell did this come out of???

Originally Posted by eamo1

if a certain MASSIVE CLUB FROM TALLAGHT dont get up by winning the league they will have the playoff to try and win,what i wouldnt give to beat them in/to the playoff(depending the format of it),how sweet would that be

.what a joke though,i just hope the clubs got more prior knowledge then us fans did.

Oh, good God, quit the conspiracy theories please. The playoff was in the original merger proposals, and it effects only the number of points the two teams involved (2nd in Div1, 11th in Prem) get for this season - barely at that.

**corbyeire** · 24/10/2006, 9:24 PM

lets say for example the 11th placed team has infinite number of points ahead of the 2nd in div 1 - what is the point of the playoff then? and as you say stig the points available are small

**JW.** · 24/10/2006, 11:36 PM

The e15 thing is based on the overwhelming confidence that we'll be in the PD next year. Based on the on-field criteria, we are just slightly off the top 12. I believe that the other 50pc for off-field will comfortably carry us over.
As regards paying e15, I don't mind for Premier Division games but the quality of football in Division One is certainly not good enough to justify this price.

**eamo1** · 25/10/2006, 12:44 AM

those prices either,nobody seems to know how much a student season ticket will be btw,anyone care to help??????paying 15 to see us play derry,cork,shels etc will be well worth it,i think if this premier division is marketed right we could have 2500/3000 at most games.but the thing is if we do go up we need a complete clearout of players though,1 step at a time though i suppose,we have to cross a few big bridges before we need to address that.

**GUISAUltra** · 25/10/2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by eamo1

those prices either,nobody seems to know how much a student season ticket will be btw,anyone care to help??????paying 15 to see us play derry,cork,shels etc will be well worth it,i think if this premier division is marketed right we could have 2500/3000 at most games.but the thing is if we do go up we need a complete clearout of players though,1 step at a time though i suppose,we have to cross a few big bridges before we need to address that.

i wouldnt say that we need a complete clearout but there is certain players who are not able to pull their own weight in the first division so they won't have a chance in the premier.

**The Rebel Ram** · 25/10/2006, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by eamo1

i just noticed an article in the programme tonight where nick lesson was talking about ticket prices for next season going up to 15euro a game,this doesnt sound like a division 1 ticket price to me.also season tickets going up to 175euros,also doesnt seem like a division 1 season ticket price either.i realise,as the article says,that the club needs to vastly improve its income but we have a squad at the moment nearly good enough to win this division without a big boost in income.this boost that hes talking about seems to me like premiership standard income.maybe im completely wide of the mark,im just wondering,thats all.

I just read on Ramblers Website that from next season a club can only spend 65% of it's income on wages. I'm not too sure if ye have a clubhouse or not but if ye don't have a thriving one then ye might need to up the prices of entery to compete. It looks good for Ramblers because its clubhouse has a good customer base and makes good profit. I thought the FAI will be standardising prices though? maybe not.

**GUISAUltra** · 25/10/2006, 10:25 PM

that rule where clubs can only spend 65% of its income on wages isnt coming into affect until 2008 but most clubs are trying to get to that level and maintain it, instead of just having to slash the wage bill in 2008

**eamo1** · 26/10/2006, 1:29 PM

last fridays result doesnt effect our IAG rating that much at all,so this adds more fuel to the raging fire because as i thought it we needed to finish in the top 2 but last fridays result will probably mean we dont finish in the top 2(i realise we still can though).or maybe it just means that this was just 1 result and its taking into account results of last 4 seasons that counts,that could be it too.