QuoteI've fixed your post.Originally Posted by Qwerty
well thank you
I've fixed your post.
Good player but I think we should look at someone a bit younger to give the captaincy too. We got a bit burned with Kenny Cunningham. When he was given the captaincy he was our best centre half and a guaranteed starter but by the end of the last campaign, I think Dunne and O'Brien should have been in the team. The manager will always be reluctant to drop the skipper. I think our next captain has to be someone virtually guaranteed a place in the team at least until the end of the next campaign - Given, Duff, Finnan and maybe Keane are the only candidates there. Personally I would give it to Shay. At times in the last year or 2 he has been our only player.
TC
Isn't Dunne captain at Man City? With not many central defenders to choose from he's a pretty sure starter for us.
"...and it's Charlie Chaplin on the wing..."
Nobody deserves the Captaincy more than Given. Kav has been doing well for Wigan but not for Ireland...he needs to be given a chance maybe but not as skipper
Thank you, that is what I had meant to say - I am actually quite a fan of Kavanagh. However I do feel peole are blowing him up a little too much - but I think he will be important for us over the next 18 months.I've fixed your post.
Nah you can't give the Captaincy to a keeper.
"...and it's Charlie Chaplin on the wing..."
Schmeichel, Sepp Maier, Zoff, Kahn, Yashin...
Still not convinced. Prefer the captain to be in midfield or defence. Besides I don't think he's quite as vocal as Kahn or Schmeichel.
"...and it's Charlie Chaplin on the wing..."
Personally I think captain is more of a ceremonial task. But I do prefer captains to be outfield. I think it helps when querying refereeing decisions etc. Referees usually give a bit more slack to the guy with the armband than anyone else. Also, for receiving instructions from the bench it's better to have an outfield player.
I think Given's influence / presence is significant enough as it is without also making him captain.
Kavanagh has yet to make his mark in the team and surely talk of him being captain is premature. His first priority is to nail his name onto the teamsheet. I agree with One Nil, Shay Given deserves the captaincy. He has been the most consistant outstanding component of the team for years, the player of the year. Kavanagh should make the team then it follows his role to organise things out field.
Kavanagh walks with Liverpool but runs out for Wigan
Stuart James
Friday December 2, 2005
Guardian
When Graham Kavanagh, a lifelong Liverpool fan, runs out at Anfield for Wigan tomorrow he could be forgiven for smiling wryly when the first rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone reverberates around the stadium. It is an anthem which evokes memories of a special night in Dublin seven months ago when the Republic of Ireland midfielder and his international team-mates put aside their club allegiances to unite behind Rafael Benítez's side.
"We were preparing for a [testimonial] game against Celtic," said Kavanagh, recalling the evening of Liverpool's European Cup triumph over Milan, "and the manager gave us time off so we went to a bar to watch it. The place erupted at the end; we all just went ballistic. Everyone was singing You'll Never Walk Alone. I was thinking to myself, I'm sitting here with players who all play for different clubs and we're all buzzing that Liverpool have won."
Kavanagh could have joined Liverpool at the age of 16 but signed for Middlesbrough instead, though his affinity with the Merseyside club remains, largely because of his roots in Ireland. His family are all Liverpool fans and 13 of them will travel over from Dublin tomorrow for a game which he hopes will see Wigan return to winning ways in the Premiership after defeats against Arsenal and Spurs.
Since missing the first two games of the season with injury Kavanagh has featured in all Wigan's league matches, playing a key part in the club's ascent to fifth place in the Premiership. On Wednesday night, though, he took a back seat as a Wigan side consisting mainly of reserves defeated Newcastle to reach the quarter-finals of the Carling Cup. "Rather than knock on the manager's door they showed with their performance what they can do," he said.
Kavanagh, who turns 32 today, has himself had to bide his time to prove his ability. After briefly experiencing Premiership football with Middlesbrough nine years ago he dropped into the Football League with Stoke before joining Cardiff in 2001. Fears that his opportunity of returning to the top flight had passed were allayed in March when he signed for a Wigan side on the cusp of promotion.
"We didn't get paid on the Monday at Cardiff and on the Wednesday I was told I had been sold," said Kavanagh. "They sent a helicopter down and I flew in on the Friday and signed. They actually said: 'Can we land the helicopter in your back garden?' I said: 'Are you taking the ****?' In the end I went to a heliport and it landed just round the corner from the club. That was incredible. I was thinking, this is complete Footballers' Wives. Ten weeks later we were promoted and I was lying on the beach thinking, did that really happen or was it a dream?"
Wigan have been dreaming ever since. Their startling form has confounded the critics who predicted an immediate return to the Championship. Even in defeat Kavanagh finds positives. "We've lost the last two [Premiership] games but confidence hasn't been affected because of the performances we've put in."
Belief is also a product of Paul Jewell's approach to management. "There are no grey areas in terms of what's wanted," said Kavanagh. "We all respect him massively and that doesn't come by just barking out orders. That comes from the way he treats people and the way he is in and around the dressing room. You can have a laugh with him, you can slag him and he can slag you, but when we are coming down to the serious business you certainly don't try to answer him back."
Anfield will certainly qualify as serious business for Kavanagh. It is a ground where he last appeared as a teenager for Middlesbrough's youth team. Almost 15 years later he returns as a player eager to make the most of his second chance in the Premiership. "It's come full circle," he said. "From my point of view it's been a fairy-tale end to my career."
In Trap we trust
Was on sky spors there yesterday talkin bout being a liverpool fan since he was a chisler....spoke well too..
yeh i have heard him speak and he seems quite the gentlemen, dresses like one also, you ever seen him walkin in with his bootback to the changin rooms, you'd think he was off to sign a new contract
this
and this
sum up why i hate the barstool ole ole brigade with a passion.
I'm actually going to quit my job & ditch all my family responsibilities so I can spend all my time wandering around crap football grounds all over Britain keeping an eye on Irish players. I'm going to get rid of my telly too. That way nobody can ever accuse me of being a barstooler. Heaven forbid I'd ever watch an Irish player playing in the Premiership on TV. That'd be just tooo middle class.
o dear o dear, get yourself some paracetemol for your period. why would anyone want to watch the second level of a league and watch a player such as kavanagh at gresty road against crewe. wat does that tell anyone about his ability. absolutely nothing, it tells more when you can see him , and other players, playing at the highest level in the country they are playing in. so before you label people the "barstool ole ole brigade" and commenting how you "hate" them, work out, all for yourself, exactly what peoples comments mean, for want of a better phrase, you are an absolute eejit
read the actual phrases i pointed out.
only since he moved to the prem has one genius started taking an interest and the other guy cant even see that GK was one of the foreigners at boro.
they were both banal, idiotic comments and they were fair game. i stick to my plastic fans opinion. those 2 posters sum up everything that is wrong with football in Ireland.
Kavanagh is not a holding midfielder (even though he looks like one), he's an attacking midfielder.
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