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    The 3 of them are past it internationally, having seen them all play this season.
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    Also ignored Stephen Ward,a scorer of a few goals when fit and winner of the Championship player of the month for February, being realistic he has made the step up look easy and has made serious progress in such a short space of time after the move from Bohs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by republicofwhite View Post
    Also ignored Stephen Ward,a scorer of a few goals when fit and winner of the Championship player of the month for February, being realistic he has made the step up look easy and has made serious progress in such a short space of time after the move from Bohs.
    Funny how Ward, Long and Doyle all made "serious progress" in such a short space of time isnt it?
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    Yeah it is actually. Probably from working with top managers like Mick McCarthy and Steve Coppell.

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    yeah Jason Byrnes been a revelation aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootballsKing View Post
    yeah Jason Byrnes been a revelation aswell
    Jason Byrne has done all that he could have - scoring a winner on his debut. Since then he hasn't been given a chance because of the Scouse gombeen Dave Jones.

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    anyway i doubt Jason Byrne isnt getting a chance without good reason, hes obviously not up to the task in training etc
    Last edited by pete; 09/05/2007 at 8:48 PM. Reason: Inappropriate language, off topic

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    With all due respect, I'm the one that watches Cardiff City every second week. Byrne is much better than the muck that has been getting in ahead of him.

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    Stan picks his team by looking at the top of their Premiership table & working his way down the English league pyramid. I believe this means when Roy Keane buys in replacements for Connolly & others they won't be in the squad either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Stan picks his team by looking at the top of their Premiership table & working his way down the English league pyramid. I believe this means when Roy Keane buys in replacements for Connolly & others they won't be in the squad either.
    I firmly believe Keane will keep Connolly next year. Also, Stokes and Elliott's goals combined and multiplied by 2 would not equal Lee's, would be one more than Connolly's and 2 more than Morrisons. If you do Long and Stokes and multiply by 2 it would equal Morrison and be less than Connolly and Lee. Basically if you are over 24 you are out I guess We could've used any of the above against Cyprus or San Marino and probably against any team, as we have seen Morrison and Connolly be competitive in the higher levels (Connolly was not bad when he actually go on the pitch in the EPL and Morrison was no slouch either) while Lee has never had the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    Alan Lee
    Clintion Morrison
    David Connoly.


    What possible reason is there to exclude them on a depleted squad that contains lesser strikers at the same level such as Keogh, Murphy or Stokes and wasters like Folan?

    Keogh and Stokes need international experience, that's the whole point of playing these games, not to reward a couple of championship journeymen because they scored a hatful of goals. Lets give the young lads a chance to show us what they can do in a green shirt. Keane, Duff, Given all needed to be given a chance at one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soper View Post
    With all due respect, I'm the one that watches Cardiff City every second week. Byrne is much better than the muck that has been getting in ahead of him.
    Think it says it all about Jones that he'd rather play Johnson upfront than give Byrne a chance
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    morrisson will be back lads , he is far from finished at international level, he has scored good goals for us , away from home when other players were found wanting, i find it difficult to believe that when he is fit , getting a run int he palace team and scoring that there won't be a squad place for him.
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    My gripes with the squad are in midfield, not in attack.

    If he feels Folan is worth a look so be it - what better opportunity? If he's a dud, then hopefully this trip will show it.

    Including Long, Elliott, Murphy, Stokes & Keogh are all good decisions. We have a wealth of emerging talent in this area and these are the ones who would benefit most from a trip like this.

    Not everyone can be picked. Connolly has been on very good form but he's too similar to Keane and not as good an all round player, though probably a bit more predatory.

    If there was a qualifier coming up it'd be a tougher call. Morrison in particular, then Connolly and less so Lee would be less risky options if Keane or Doyle were injured. Lee has nuisance value but is far too slow for international football. Good luck to him, he has settled at a decent level of the game but the others have more to offer us.

    This is the best range of attacking options we've had in a long time, don't moan about it.

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    For once, I agree with Stan. He is bring a lot of young strikers over to the US to give them experience. Fair enough. Keogh really excites me. He is constantly on the go and scores spectacular goals. What really confuses me is why is he bringing Nicky Colgan. He is a **** poor keeper and over 30. Whereas Doyle and Henderson are young and improving. It would have been a lot better if he had included Supple in the squad, just for the experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soper View Post
    The 3 of them are past it internationally, having seen them all play this season.
    David connolly has been excellent this season and has been really unlucky not to be in the squads. I can see why he wants to try younger lads for this trip but Connolly should have been included for the Wales and Czech games as he is full of confidence. 8 Strikers on the trip is a bit bizarre though. Will they all get one half each ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerMilla View Post
    morrisson will be back lads , he is far from finished at international level, he has scored good goals for us , away from home when other players were found wanting, i find it difficult to believe that when he is fit , getting a run int he palace team and scoring that there won't be a squad place for him.
    I think with the way Staunton thinks there would be more chance of your namesake playing for Ireland again than Clinton. For some reason only known to Stan he is not picking the likes of Clinton and Connolly. He can keep blabbing out about planning for the future but the people that are paying good money to see us play want results now and our players on form to be playing.

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    If we're looking at a "big man" option, I'd have Murphy in there ahead of Lee any day...Looks to be a lot more skillful and more importantly has the potential to be a top player...

    As for Connolly and Morrisson, well they've always tried hard for us but its time for some new blood up front....

    Now if he could just sort out that midfield......
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinedineontour View Post
    I think with the way Staunton thinks there would be more chance of your namesake playing for Ireland again than Clinton. For some reason only known to Stan he is not picking the likes of Clinton and Connolly. He can keep blabbing out about planning for the future but the people that are paying good money to see us play want results now and our players on form to be playing.
    well maybe it would take a change of manager... but i dotn see him being excluded permanently , unless the new lads really start punching the lights out and scoring for fun , in which case no one will grumble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinedineontour View Post
    He can keep blabbing out about planning for the future but the people that are paying good money to see us play want results now and our players on form to be playing.
    It's and end of season tour aganst Bolivia and Ecuador, not away to Czech Republic!

    Any, if you're to cite form then only Connolly's case has real merit.

    Morrison has been in and out of Palace's team (his goal vs Derby was really good I admit!) and quite a few of Lee's goals have been penalties, and one hat trick against a totally hapless Luton. I like Lee, he's hard working and honest but really isn't in contention.

    Stokes would have been top scorer in SPL if he'd stayed, and for Falkirk, not the big 2. He's also suffered from rotation and being played out of position, like Elliott. Murphy & Keogh have been on great form recently and really deserve their places.

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