QuoteOk go to this link and then click on the link that is in the Tartan Army Message Board. It goes to Rangers Fans discussing the Union Jack at Scotland games.
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Last edited by NeilMcD; 24/02/2005 at 1:35 PM.
Ok go to this link and then click on the link that is in the Tartan Army Message Board. It goes to Rangers Fans discussing the Union Jack at Scotland games.
Often log on to FF to see how the other half live, this is fairly tame. Get them on the subject of the Irish, at first there is some I've nothing against them, then I've nothing against them but, I'm sure you all can work out where this leads to!
The pharse 'Romanist' is regularly used on the board, leading me to wonder if they'll be witch burning next.
They also thought the throwing potatoes on to the Celtic Park pitch, (they think the Irish are spud suckers you see was truely hilarious)
Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
Just put it up as it is an interesting discussion into the idea of nationality and to be British and Scottish etc.
Those fella's on the follow follow site have calmed down a bit, their normally a lot more angry then that. I think someone was on a bit of a wind up on that subject and a load of them fell for it as per the norm.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
Originally Posted by Conor74
Did ya read it... It gives a good insite to some of the small minded biggots in Scotland... Kinda funny actually...
sounded like some of them were going to the match to wind up their fellow supporters not watch the game...
Someone should let them know its the other team your supposed to be intinidating not your own supporters
In light of the dahamstas post on political discussions and the descent of threads into bigotry I will try to tread carefully on this matter. Re Mark Walter's subject, it did happened, it was once and is one of the darkest moments in the recent history of Celtic (in my view equal to than almost going bust or the incompetence of the team in the middle of Ranagers nine in a row) The only thing that can be said about it is that a large and active anti fascist movement developed at Celtic, in many ways because of the embrassment.
Personally speaking I think large scale insulting racial stereotyping is worse than a cigerette lighter thrown by an eejit, I don't find idiotic references to the death and emigration of half of Ireland's population a hilarious gesture, and I'm sure that you don't so why play the game of 'well they do this or that as well'?
*Oh the reference to Romanist and witch burning was more in the context of the age of the word (surely 16/17th century?)then the bigotry attached with the sentements
Last edited by Pat O' Banton; 25/02/2005 at 12:35 PM.
Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
They probably didn't take offence at the Mark Walters incident, after all racist incidents like that are still commonplace at Ibrox....just ask Bobo Balde, Sylla, Petta etc who were/are regularly subjected to itHmmm, spuds you say...harder than bananas that Celtic fans threw at Mark Walters no doubt (once, as they will point out), but not as hard as a cigarette lighter on the back of the head I'd say...
Celtic fans admit that the Walter's incident was an embarassment to the club and happened in 1988, the people on FF seem to thing the spud throwing funny and happened last year, can you not see a difference?
Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
So you would argue that negative racial stereotyping doesn't lead to violence? Seriously Connor I know you can come up with better than this.
Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
Not defending it at all, as has been pointed out to you (but you seem to refuse to aknowledge), that incident is a matter of embarressment to Celtic fans today. All I'm saying is that racist abuse is commonplace at Ibrox to this day, something that isn't the case at Celtic.
Grand so
And just like clockwork, Conor brings up the Mark Walters incident. Not out of any sympathy towards Walters and the discraceful racist abuse he suffered, but purely to 'noise up' celtic fans.Hmmm, spuds you say...harder than bananas that Celtic fans threw at Mark Walters no doubt (once, as they will point out), but not as hard as a cigarette lighter on the back of the head I'd say...
Scoring points out of this episode is cheap to say the least. I've said this before & no doubt I'll be pointing it out in another Conor post in the not to distant future.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Ah the lawyer in you here Conor
I'm not the one arguing 'well, a banana thrown that year isn't as bad as a potato thrown this year'...
You know full well that it shows (hopefully) that Celtic fans have moved beyond petty rascism (come on, it happened seventeen years ago its hardly a good indicator of the behaviour of those inside Parkhead nowadays) where as those from FF still find it a worthy thing. Anyway this is developing into a Celtic / Rangers thread, when Neil's first point was on how their fans view Scotland/Britain and is an interesting one. Perhaps I should type something about that instead.
Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
But probably no worse than if someone in Scotland were to look at the number of times 'hun' or 'tan' is used on this board and find it very amusing.
Hmmm, spuds you say...harder than bananas that Celtic fans threw at Mark Walters no doubt (once, as they will point out), but not as hard as a cigarette lighter on the back of the head I'd say...
Its Ground hog day
AHH here we go again, not going to go into what the result was after that sad incident because it has been explained to yer good self Conor many times by me, plus Pat and Drinkfeckarse have also explained it again to yer Conor.
In the last 18 years nothing like that has happened thankfully to black players, but maybe we could bring in some of problems in that time that seem to follow the fans of the team that you support this side of the water.
Your bringing up one incident Conor about Celtic fans, where as your fellow Leeds fans have been happy to do photo calls dressed up as KKK members, make mokey noises at Black players, sing songs about hating Asians (not forgetting some of your former players kicking to bits two young Asian lads), attacking Turkish owned shops due to an incident when Leeds fans tried to take on half of Istanbul, also smashing up town centers home and away (I suppose you never heard what happened in Bournmouth), and that other great rallying cry for Leeds fans songs about the Munich air crash.
So Conor, I know you do like a wind up, but I think you should get your own house in order before you go on about A incident from fans of another team.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
Fans of Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal have all been in the news of late for chucking stuff at players all wrong like the eejit that chucked whatever at Rickson but as far as your concerned its only Celtic fans that do that old craic.
I like the way you pick up on any old incident involving Celtic fans and make a big deal of it even though you follow a club whose fans sing about people being killed in a plane crash or are happy to pose for the camara's in kkk gear. Maybe we could talk about the Leeds fans response after the last time they were in a europian final and how they never got a fair play award unlike Celtic's. Your the one who has had players from the team you follow up in court on a charge of racial agrovated violence, yet you bang on all the time about Celtic.
As for this funny ha ha craic, what do you mean and whats this poor taste craic about.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
Oh dear!
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
I was laughing at how Sylvo mentioning the Leeds fans behaviour that night and its backlash against the turkish community in Leeds and indeed Britain - 'attacking Turkish owned shops due to an incident when Leeds fans tried to take on half of Istanbul' - got you into sanctimonious mode. LOL!Leeds has a history of some right nasty right wing w*nkers amongst its support stretching back at least to the time that you were kicked out of Europe for not being able to take defeat to Beckenbauer and the boys. Perhaps you should look at your own club's hardly illustrious record before pointing the finger at other clubs. Oh, and for the record, no I didn't think those two blokes deserved to die even if one had a history of hooliganism. But then I don't believe paedophiles or murderers should be executed either.
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
Was anyone watching the Rangers/Celtic supporters on the telly last night ? I hate both clubs. With all the bigotry its pathetic.
I think its high time the FAI banned all Glasgow Celtic jerseys at LAndsdowne Road
Read the Liverpool thrad where I got some Everton fans annoyed for suggesting a points deduction for throwing objects.
Go on, tell me, what else did I do and not do lately - and this time let's not make up stuff...
Conor i'm not bothered about who you've been winding up of late its when you get on your anti Celtic rants and try and make out that the support hates black people due to some @rsehole chucking stuff at Walters 18 years ago, and it sounds even more crazy when a Leeds fan is doing the accusing.
Now where have I made up stuff, have none of those things happened then. Did Leeds fans not try and take on half of Istanbul, those two blokes did not deserve what happened to them of course they didn't but I take it Leeds fans where perfect angels in your eyes and did nothing to upset their hosts, they were all complaining that even people in suits were jumping off buses and even Women were trying to get to them, I suppose that had nothing to do with phissing on Turkish flags and insulting everyone, those two blokes didn't deserve what happened to them but the Turkish community here didn't deserve the hatred they got because of it.
I suppose you know all about the fears Asian communitys in towns and citys across England have when Leeds come to their towns, like the Asian community in Leicester who just shut down for the day altogether and wait till they've gone.
When Celtic fans have tried to burn down a town like when your Leeds fans tried to do it in Bournmouth, or when they get chucked out of playing in Europe do to smashing up a forign city i'll take on board your problems, until then, I think you should get your own house in order still.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
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