Clubs divided over future LOI format?

[Dodge]

Sounds like a ridiculous idea. Reserve teams aren't going to entice people in the gates of Lissywoollen, Finn Park and wherever else

But Carlow IT would?

[sullanefc]

The A-championship should never have been gotten rid of anyway IMO. We are short on teams and this is a good way of making up the numbers. It also gives incoming teams an idea of the standard required. To keep the costs down, registration fees should be reduced from the current 19k, the 1st division should be regionalised and teams should be allowed to register u19s on the team.

If reserve teams are going to play in the first division, then it will become even more of a graveyard. For this reason, serious teams in the first division like Athlone, Finn Harps, Longford, Loser of Waterford v Dundalk etc should be promoted to an expanded premier.

[gufc2000]

But Carlow IT would?

Where exactly did I suggest that?

[Charlie Darwin]

There is something lunatic about charging FD clubs thousands to enter the league when so many millions are wasted elsewhere in the LOI. Making league football viable for as many clubs as possible should be a basic function of the FAI and entrance fees run completely contrary to that. I understand clubs also need to demonstrate viablity but lowering or removing the entrance fee would do so much to help clubs do that.

[bluewhitearmy]

How many reserve teams will Limerick be entering?

Just Cork again id say.

[Dodge]

Where exactly did I suggest that?

My point was that the first division needs new clubs and whoever they are won't really effect crowds. So there's no point in talking about it (in this case)

[bluewhitearmy]

Reserve teams aren't going to entice people in the gates of Lissywoollen, Finn Park and wherever else.

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Do any of the other teams in the first division at the minute entice people into those grounds?

[nigel-harps1954]

I don't really care as long as there is more teams in some form. Ridiculous as it is playing everyone four times, I'd just like to see more teams at this stage.

In an ideal world the FAI would reduce the cost of entering the division and relax the licensing for one year to get clubs up to scratch, but, alas, ideal world and FAI don't usually go hand in hand.

[Blue Bear]

Apparently the Newry City idea has been blocked by the IFA

[outspoken]

Apparently the Newry City idea has been blocked by the IFA

Wouldnt surprise me at all

[TheBoss]

But if it is new club without affiliation, how can they block that ?

[nigel-harps1954]

Precisely my thoughts TheBoss. I assume it's more of a UEFA choice and not IFA choice, although they are in the jurisdiction of the IFA, they were recently kicked out, so should have every right to seek refuge elsewhere.

[Blue Bear]

Not sure of the reasons why but it's a shame, would have been good to have a new team in the FD.

[Charlie Darwin]

Derry had to have a special dispensation, didn't they? As far as I know, any club operating within the borders of Northern Ireland is under the IFA's purview so needs their permission to join another league. I suppose if they thought it was viable they could groundshare with Dundalk, but who'd willingly play half their games at Oriel?

[A face]

Apparently the Newry City idea has been blocked by the IFA

Nothing on the IFA website for Belfast Telegraph about it yet anyway.

[Blue Bear]

Heard from a very reliable source!

[A face]

Heard from a very reliable source!

But if they are refused then where does that leave them? They are in limbo according to this article anyway. Would love to see a statement from the IFA on this.

[Dodge]

Newry would play in the IFA jurisdiction so would obviously need IFA permission. Up to them if they allow it or not.

[Lim till i die]

So if a club finishes fourth it could b promoted? A recipe for many more monaghan situations as a promoted team normally at least can live on inflated attendances as a result of a good run then the novelty of the big teams coming to town. The reserve idea suits all those who take money from our game not those who pay for it. It will fail again but keeps the administrators in the game for another year. Itd a swirlpool of failure

What does any of this mean??

Rovers, Sligo and Cork were the teams actively looking for this the past couple of months apparently

Surprises me.

Didn't think Cork would be that monied.

And always thought Sligo were one of the clubs who wanted the A League gone last time out.

Limerick have committed to entering two reserve sides for the record, an East Limerick/North Tipperary/Clare based one and a West Limerick/North Kerry/North Cork based one.

To keep the costs down, registration fees should be reduced from the current 19k

Everyone keeps banging on about this.

It's a red herring so massive I'm surprised the forum isn't swamped with Norwegian trwalers.

19 grand lads, give it a rest ffs.

the 1st division should be regionalised and teams should be allowed to register u19s on the team.

Fair enough.

If reserve teams are going to play in the first division, then it will become even more of a graveyard. For this reason, serious teams in the first division like Athlone, Finn Harps, Longford, Loser of Waterford v Dundalk etc should be promoted to an expanded premier

You don't want to go down the road of promoting teams just because we've heard of them, I'm at a loss as to why any of them are more serious teams than Wexford (who finished ahead of Athlone and Harps) or Mervue (who since entering the league have stubbornly refused to cause any controversy whatsoever.)

[gufc2000]

19 grand lads, give it a rest ffs.

We don't all have benefactors covering big fees like this. €19k is a crazy sum to fork out before the season starts. Doubt a supporter of the pre-Pat O'Sullivan Limerick would be making a comment like this