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    I'll go for 3.
    Trap being peeved with Robbie after the last game doesn't auger well. If Robbie isn't fit, and it's at most 50/50 at this stage, will Trap trust him to be honest?
    Same with Longy - it would be a risk to start either if they've only recuperated in the days leading up to the match.

    Having Best on the bench is a no-brainer to me. Wouldn't surprise me to see Walters and Cox start with Best and Keogh on the bench.
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    What are the odds Trap will make a statement saying Robbie is crocked, that he has rarely seen a striker recover sharpness after such an injury in their 30's.

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    I would say Keogh is ahead of Best in Trap's eyes. But these are two crucial games and hard to tell what he is thinking. He has publicily criticised/questioned players in the past and then played them the very next game ie Gibson, Doyle, Keane at different times. It will depend on what he makes of the Estonian back line and keeper. He could bring in Best and start him. Or not pick him at all. Hard to tell for the away game. I don't think Long or Keane have any chance of taking part in either game

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    What are the odds Trap will make a statement saying Robbie is crocked, that he has rarely seen a striker recover sharpness after such an injury in their 30's.
    Trap might have one of his Machiavellian moments.

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    Keane will be there. He hasn't worked this hard to make one last tourney with Ireland to miss the play in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    Trap might have one of his Machiavellian moments.
    Yeah maybe Trap liked Robbie's singing in that pub the day before the Armenia match as much as he loved Andy Reid's guitar playing.
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    I think Trap was genuinely put out by Keane staying on in Andorra while injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I think Trap was genuinely put out by Keane staying on in Andorra while injured.
    Who's fault is that though? Bring him off if he is hurt.
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    I think the point was that Robbie didn't make it known he had stretched something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Who's fault is that though? Bring him off if he is hurt.
    Robbie was definately wrong to play knowing he was injured. He should have put the teams interests above his own and made way for fit striker to replace him.

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    Therefore the 'Trap slams Robbie' hysterical interpretation.

    No doubt, like many of us, Trap appreciates the positive aspects of the captain's mental reservation as well as noting the negative aspects.
    Good to have a team where players will go to extremes to be involved, even if it is a game against the perceived minnows, not winning was not an option.

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    The thing is geysir, more often than not, he doesn't seem to think like many of us - and before any of your rhetoric I'm including you in the many

    *The cox one being one very notable example where he got it right and he played well, however i think on that one you did actually agree with it based on his likeness/similarity to keane, although I agreed the acceptance criteria there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    The thing is geysir, more often than not, he doesn't seem to think like many of us - and before any of your rhetoric I'm including you in the many
    Trap is an elder Italian, of course he thinks, acts and expresses himself differently.
    Do you not think Trap appreciates the winning, stay on at all costs, mentality demonstrated by Robbie that evening?
    You'd be doing him a disservice if you thought just because he expressed annoyance at Robbie, that would be anything more that a part of his 'holistic view' of Robbie's mentality.

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    He also called O'Dea correctly, and Sledge before that.

    In think his annoyance with Keane was just that. He was annoyed but it's hardly a fatal error on Keane's part.

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    Unlike the rest of us, Trap's decisions have to be proved before we can say a call has made correctly.

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    I wasn't disagreeing with the assessment of Keane!

    Traps decisions because sometimes on translating his interviews in the run up, generally seem to be very wide open to interpretation but also sometimes appear quite random, however he generally has been proved right - or at least never wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    What are the odds Trap will make a statement saying Robbie is crocked, that he has rarely seen a striker recover sharpness after such an injury in their 30's.
    what are the odds of trap making a statement of him resigning and doing us all a favour!

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    If Trap did make a statement that he wasn't interested in a new contract, he would manage to make it sound as if he was doing us a favor.

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    Squad is named tomorrow I believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by theworm2345 View Post
    Squad is named tomorrow I believe
    Anthony Stokes hoping to be involved.

    Might be disappointed.

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