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    Quote Originally Posted by theworm2345 View Post
    This makes no sense, we've matches at the end of May and in early June...when would this happen? Anyway, Delaney, Aldo, and Packie were in Chicago last year (as I found out the day after ) so hopefully if this is true they'll have a match here.
    Only Packie showed up and it was a debacle. Very poorly organized though I don't think it was the FAI's fault. I'd be delighted if there was a game in Chicago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergie's Son View Post
    Only Packie showed up and it was a debacle. Very poorly organized though I don't think it was the FAI's fault. I'd be delighted if there was a game in Chicago.
    ****, I'm guessing that hurts our chances of having a game here (at least in the odds off chance this does materialize). Was there at least a decent turnout? I think it was a two day thing, one informal sort of clinic down at Gaelic Park and one formal dinner that was expensive.
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    what about joe laperia!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Jermaine Pennant!! ;-)

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    Great opportunity - we should call up 22 Irish Americans.

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    Who are they going to play? I was reading that Cantona is in charge of the Cosmos development now or something. I would love to try to goad him into kicking me while watching an Irish team comprised of tired, hung over 21 year olds in front of a half full stadium... Not sure that there is actually a Cosmos team either yet mind you. Last time they came here they played Ecuador, one of the most boring events I have ever attended. Right up there with Bon Jovi. Still, I do enjoy tailgating.
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    FAI could hardly afford to bring a team to New Ross, never mind New York, such is their dire current financial state.

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    funds for a one way ticket for paul green and paul mcshane should be made available

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    22 irish americans!!! then there is still hope for me yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf Honn View Post
    FAI could hardly afford to bring a team to New Ross, never mind New York, such is their dire current financial state.
    You realise they'll be going to the US because they're paid to? You think they go there for the laugh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    You realise they'll be going to the US because they're paid to? You think they go there for the laugh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    Great opportunity - we should call up 22 Irish Americans.

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    It won't be long now before that's the case. Forty million Americans of Irish descent and soccer being the biggest participation sport in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    It won't be long now before that's the case. Forty million Americans of Irish descent and soccer being the biggest participation sport in the US.
    Most of those people would have to go back to great great grandparents to find a relative from Ireland so they wouldn't be eligible anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theworm2345 View Post
    Most of those people would have to go back to great great grandparents to find a relative from Ireland so they wouldn't be eligible anyway.
    I dont know, there was a fairly sustained period of emigration th the US from Ireland again as recently as the 1980's. I realise what you mean though 'Irish America' as we traditionally view it would be several generations back however Conor Doyle shows there are more recent examples as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    I dont know, there was a fairly sustained period of emigration th the US from Ireland again as recently as the 1980's. I realise what you mean though 'Irish America' as we traditionally view it would be several generations back however Conor Doyle shows there are more recent examples as well.
    Of course there will always be immigrants coming in as there are with any nationality and America. However, the noteworthy immigration of Irish immigrants ended long enough ago that the last big group of people with Irish grandparents are probably mainly in their 40s now. Here's immigration by decade. There is a way to get an Irish passport through a great-grandparent, but only if your parent got their nationality before you were born. Essentially, at this point I doubt there are any more Irish-eligible players born here than, for example, players eligible for countries like Ghana or Korea. Irish American as a term is almost like African American at this point in that the people who are labelled as such probably have to go back deep in to the "great greats" to find an ancestor actually from the place for which they are labelled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theworm2345 View Post
    However, the noteworthy immigration of Irish immigrants ended long enough ago that the last big group of people with Irish grandparents are probably mainly in their 40s now.
    Thanks worm! The chart you showed only seems to show up to 1970 but the largest post-war emigration actually happened from 1986-1993. This is an interesting article http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...2435.00045/pdf but just two lines actually gives you a good picture....

    "Due mainly to the diversity visas, annual Irish immigration averaged about 8,600 during 1985-1987, the highest in the post-World War II era".
    "Nearly 8,600 entered annually between 1987-95, with diversity visas accounting for 79 per cent of the flow".

    The immigration numbers were not on the same scale as at the turn of the last century but the numbers above indicate about 80,000 Irish immigrants into the US in a 10 year period. Many people did return to Ireland during the boom years but I'd estimate that at least 30,000 of them remain here in the US and are likely to have had kids in the meantime - those kids are also more likely to have been brought up with an interest in football given what was going on at Italia 90, USA 94 etc. It's a big pool to choose from and one that we should be looking into.

    It looks like the next round of the search in 15-20 years will be in New Zealand, Canada and Australia given the recent emigration patterns at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastTerracer View Post
    According to the Daily Mail it would happen after the Macedonia game - it will definitely make it difficult to get a squad together considering most English clubs will expect their players back for pre-season in early July. Players and clubs alike want to ensure that they get sufficient rest between seasons.

    "Meanwhile, Trapattoni is set to lead an Irish squad on a post- season tour to the United States. Arrangements are being finalised for an American trip immediately after the Euro 2012 qualifier away to Macedonia in Skopje on June 4."
    Great. I can see it now. McCarthy is called up to the squad. McCarthy is knackered and doesn't turn up. Trapp has a ready made excuse to exile him from the squad in the autumn.
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