QuoteSo your lot played pretty well (average rating about 7) and we still won without performing very well. BYE BYE
Robbie Horgan:
I shan't rate him, as to do so would be just as unfair as selecting him under current circumstances was in the first place. Beaten all ends up by Fenn's free-kick and didn't even move as O'Callaghan volleyed the rebound home. Almost gifted Cork two further goals by charging recklessly from his area. For the sake of having something in the pro column, one may as well note that he made a good catch late on.
Look, I don't want it to seem as though I'm conducting some kind of witch-hunt against Robbie. He's a brilliant bloke, a legend of Irish football, and made as important a contribution as anyone to getting us into the Premier Division. But allowing him to keep goal whilst so obviously devoid of form and confidence is doing no-one, least of all Robbie himself, any favours. With the team bottom of the table and a top-class `keeper (Brendan Kennedy) waiting in the wings, it's just suicidal.
Barry Burke: 7.5
As busy as anyone on the field, Barry almost cost us a goal with a dreadfully sloppy pass towards the end of the match, but was otherwise solid. Given that Barry plays his best football as an attacking central midfielder, it's perhaps surprising that he doesn't get forward more when operating at full-back.
Wes Byrne: 8
Showed more urgency and desire than anyone out there, and even swung over some decent crosses for a change. I think we'll just have to accept the occasional lapse of touch or control as an inevitable component of our Wesley's style of play, but one must offset that against the vim and leadership he brings to the team.
Derek Griffin: 8
Third game in six days - and he still won man of the match! Developing into a fine player.
Ben Whelehan: 7.5
Turned and beaten for pace on more than one occasion, but still running Gary O'Neill close for the title of best close-season acquisition.
Cathal O'Connor: 6
Not up to his usual high standard, but Cottsy still looked the player most likely to provide the crucial assist. Just has that intangible spark of creativity about him. Lucky not to be booked (at least) for a little, ahem, tete-a-tete, in the first half. Should have equalised with our only clear chance of the game.
Keith Foy: 5
Sluggish, lacklustre performance. A few decent set-pieces were the extent of his contribution.
Jason Colwell: 7
Terrier-like for the most part, but didn't always use the ball to good effect.
Terry Gleeson: 6
Game passed him by.
Paul Crowley: 7.5
First-minute booking failed to curb his energetic style. Always looking to get forward but there, perhaps, is the rub. City desperately need (if we persist with 4-5-1) someone to push forward in support of Gary O'Neill; Paul's particular set of skills are best suited to a more defensive role, so surely Burke, McGill or even Maher (or indeed Gleeson, although recent performances suggest otherwise) could be employed further forward.
Gary O'Neill: 7.5
Can't expect him to bail us out every time. Which isn't to say he played badly - although well marshalled by Murray, Gary was still our most potent attacking option. Minor criticism - perhaps not direct enough on the night, in the sense that he kept weaving in and out of the Cork defence when opportunities to go through them plainly existed. Extend contract brilliant news for all City fans.
SUBS:
Philly Hughes: 7
The more prominent of the two forwards for the last fifteen minutes, and when your striker partner is called Gary O'Neill, that's a pretty substantial compliment. Did most of his work with his back to goal, and wasn't given anything to run on to.
Killian Brennan: 6
Frantic finale not his cup of tea. Should have been introduced much, much earlier.
Robbie Collins: Not on long enough
Last, despairing roll of the dice. Don't think he got a kick.
So your lot played pretty well (average rating about 7) and we still won without performing very well. BYE BYE
Your obsessive prejudice is both ugly and tiresome.
BTW, there was nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, in last night's game to suggest that your team is significantly better than ours, which, given the relative amounts of resources available, is a shocking indictment.
I fail to see how any player on eityher side could be rated higher than 6 last night.
Was expecting O'Neill to be your threat but he did nothing.
One man up front heavily marked.Originally Posted by pete
They've both very different styles. Robbie even at his best doesn't look as confident as Brendan. Someone was saying how he tends to stroll around the pitch!!!!! we deserved a point from that game.
Yeah but ain't that the same every game?
hmmmm.....Your obsessive prejudice is both ugly and tiresome.
The fact that you support a team with no other resources except a marketing idea, and send teams out on the pitch in the hope of not losing, while we are a club who are the complete opposite, does not prove your "theory" on the basis of one game. I can understand your disappointment, but ludicrous oversimplification on the basis of 90 minutes is pointless.
1. It's your managers choice to play one person up front. You do not go out to win games, you hope to avoid defeat.
2. Welcome to the Premier divison. Players must expect to be marked very closely. Its where players as talented as John O'Flynn shine, and poor players are found out, no matter how heavily they are marked.
We have competed as a soccer team since 2001. We won the first division title last year and gained promotion. How the F*uck does a marketing idea do that, you ****.
Settle yourself down little boy.
Continuity Home Farm Everton Dublin City are the idea of a marketing man.
Sell jerseys, do a few promotions, hope to latch on to the Dublin GAA concept.
It's not like the club was founded to cater for a local community or anything like that.......
Don't be glib, it doesn't become you. You know very well I was referring to a particular Cork poster's constant sneering in this forum.
The likes of Kilkenny, Monaghan and Home Farm Everton have shown us that genuinely poor promoted teams simply can't live in this division. If Cork are so many light-years ahead of us on and off the field, they should have no trouble disposing of us every time we play.
Ermm We did..
Played 2
Won 2
For 4
Against 1
Points 6
You didn't have any trouble last night, then? Walked it? I urge you to think carefully before responding, for on your answer rests my long-term opinion of your capacity for objective thought.Ermm We did..
Played 2
Won 2
For 4
Against 1
Points 6
1. I wasn't at the game.
2. An unbiased supporter of another club did not agree with your assesment of the game. Neither did the report of the game in the Irish Times.
3. If you had scored 1 goal last night, and spent 89 1/2 minutes clearing the ball off the line, giving away corners, and stopping us from scoring, you would have proclaimed a fantastic performance and a great win.
4. The fact that we did not wipe the floor with you, as we did in the first game between us, seems to be used by you to have a rant at Cork and the ref.
5. I actually predicted a few days ago that this would be a very tough game for us, as your form seems to be improving. It was a tough game, and while we played poorly, (as admitted to me by a Cork player this morning), it was the second time in 6 days we went to Dublin and came away with all 3 points. In this respect, the result is far more important than the performance.
Do we have the same copy? Mine says:
"The result was harsh on bottom-of-the-table Dublin City who played much of the football as Cork's only efforts on goals came from set-pieces."
Not great English, but pretty much backs up what I wrote, I would have thought.
Incidentally, in my experience there's no such thing as an unbiased supporter where Dublin City are involved. I've now seen every team in the league this season, and for all the whining about how poor we are, I've only witnessed one half of football that was demonstrably better than anything in which we've been involved (first half of Bohs vs. Waterford.)
PS: I never rant.
From The Irish Times
George O'Callaghan made it a hat-trick of wins in the capital for Cork City with a smash-and-grab first-half winner as Pat Dolan's side moved to third in the table. The result was harsh on bottom-of-the-table Dublin City who played much of the football as Cork's only efforts on goals came from set-pieces.
Both sides endeavoured to knock the ball around in a tight first half. Save for a first-minute scare when no Cork team-mate was available to apply the final touch to Neale Fenn's low cross, it was Dublin who carved out the most constructive openings of the half. Defender Ben Whelehan was on the end of the first real chance but he miss-hit his shot from Barry Burke's cross straight at Michael Devine.
Cork replied within a minute when Robbie Horgan's right upright came to Dublin's rescue as Danny Murphy's free-kick got through the defensive wall. Cork were soon exposed again, however, but again, Dublin's finish scarcely troubled Devine as Paul Crowley headed into the goalkeeper's arms after Gary O'Neill and Cathal O'Connor worked the opening down the right.
Those missed chances came back to haunt Dublin as they fell behind four minutes before the break. A variation on their earlier free-kick from a similar position resulted in Fenn's shot rebounding off the crossbar. Dublin reacted sluggishly to the loose ball which fell for O'Callaghan who volleyed home.
The second half was a huge disappointment with Cork, for the most part, happy to defend their lead. O'Connor might have equalised on 62 minutes, but his drive lacked power.
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Now if you look through that report, it mentions 3 chances for DC. It also mentions 3 for CC, 1 which hit the post and one which went in. It also says that we were happy to sit back and take the 3 points.
Hardly conclusive evidence that you should have won the game, and that you somehow let it slip.
Who? Little ol me? I've posted max 4 or 5 times in this forum on that issue. Check if you want. check every post i've ever made in the DCFCHFFHFE forum and you'll see. No sneering at all- I just made my opinions on DCFCHFFHFE clear. And I make no apologies for despising the existence of DCFCHFFHFE
Come on mate, you're stretching here - the extract I quoted, as I said, more or less confirms exactly what I wrote.
Counting the number of chances listed in a short match report is an interesting means of determining who deserved to win, maybe you could forward it to Mr. Blatter. Incidentally, I neither wrote nor believe that we deserved to win, but we should certainly have drawn the match. Cork defended well, but they were forced to. It wasn't some calculated catenaccio-style smash-and-grab, it was a fairly freakish goal followed by a total inability to get hold of the ball.
Anyway, well done on the result - here's hoping we both have something to play for when next you visit us at Tolka in September.
Calm down everyone...
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