Padraig Amond

[Closed Account]

That's the kernel of this issue really. With luck he could have played for Brazil, but I'm sure he doesn't pine. Pecan pick himself up and move on.

I heard he was very disappointed that he never got a call up under Trapattoni.

Apparently he's still Pi$$ed at Gio, nuts.

[tricky_colour]

But Tricky, if you're good enough, you're good enough, right? That's the crux of your argument. And according to you he is Just. That. Good.

Well yes, and having looked at the squad we are taking (as in strikers) I think I could find a spot for him.

We are taking one player who has scored in 6 of his 39 championship games.

Amond 23 of his 46.

He can create a goal out of nothing, a pretty useful talent (especially when playing for Ireland )

We have stokes, 7 in 27 in the second tier of Scottish football.

Kevin Doyle 5 in 23 in the MSL

McGoldrick 5 in 27

So it is not like he would be competing again premiership class in the first place is it?

We would not be leaving a world beater at home.

Indeed I don't realise how weak the competition was until I looked.

2 of McGoldricks 5 were penalties!

[tricky_colour]

Some players only have one good season, think of Joe Johnson the snooker player, won the world championsships
and never heard of again.

[Stuttgart88]

I have a vague recollection that Johnson mounted a good defence of his title at the Crucible the following year?

[nigel-harps1954]

I am talking about now, he has an eye for goal, seriously someone would be mad to not snap him up and give him a chance.

Lets face it you can splash out millions on a top striker and he can turn out to be useless.

I can't believe nobody is apparently too interest, I have seen no clubs mentioned.

You have to play him in a system that suits him though.

Shouldn't he always have had that eye for goal though? Outside of one season at Sligo he never exactly set the league of Ireland alight to my memory. He's always sat around the lower leagues in England and this year is really the first year he's had a big goalscoring season.

I don't see how anyone would jump at a one-season wonder from the Conference. He'd be lucky if a top League Two or League One side came in for him in my view.

[Stuttgart88]

Of course nobody ever improved after leaving the LOI.

I'm sure he can conker League 2 defences, at least.

[tricky_colour]

I have a vague recollection that Johnson mounted a good defence of his title at the Crucible the following year?

Well maybe Amond will have a good second year too.

[SkStu]

Well yes, and having looked at the squad we are taking (as in strikers) I think I could find a spot for him.

We are taking one player who has scored in 6 of his 39 championship games.

Amond 23 of his 46.

He can create a goal out of nothing, a pretty useful talent (especially when playing for Ireland )

We have stokes, 7 in 27 in the second tier of Scottish football.

Kevin Doyle 5 in 23 in the MSL

McGoldrick 5 in 27

So it is not like he would be competing again premiership class in the first place is it?

We would not be leaving a world beater at home.

Indeed I don't realise how weak the competition was until I looked.

2 of McGoldricks 5 were penalties!

He's non-league man!

[tricky_colour]

Shouldn't he always have had that eye for goal though? Outside of one season at Sligo he never exactly set the league of Ireland alight to my memory. He's always sat around the lower leagues in England and this year is really the first year he's had a big goalscoring season.

I don't see how anyone would jump at a one-season wonder from the Conference. He'd be lucky if a top League Two or League One side came in for him in my view.

Not everyone has a great season every year, some players develop later in their career, Wes Hoolahan, Shane long to name but 3 if you include
Stephen Hunt.

Problem is here is that by the time players have passed the selection requirement of many here they will likely be dead
or going fast is downhill by the time they are selected.

You will not even get odds on a few of them being the top scorer at the Euros
because they do not exist as a goal threat so nothing to lose by leaving them behind.


the reason I can jump at a conference player is because I can read who is on the squad sheet already.

[tricky_colour]

He's non-league man!

So what?

The goals are the same size.

[NeverFeltBetter]

The opposition aren't the same quality though. You know that, I think, so we're going in circles here. And the idea that a single decent season in the Conference should equate to a position in a Euro 2016 squad is absolutely absurd, even for you Tricky. I wouldn't put Rory Gaffney in the Ireland team, or in a Premiership squad, and he just got promoted from the 4th to the 3rd tier.

[gastric]

Jeez Tricky, you are dealing with a tough audience here - they are know it alls! I once proposed that Mark Bunn could be our number one goalkeeper and I am still carrying the scars. Good on you for supporting Amond, you 'll hear nothing from this crowd if proved right though. I do, however, think they have you by the short and curlies on this one.

[CraftyToePoke]

So what?

The goals are the same size.

This swung it for me, got to say. Screw the natural ascension in levels which define the game the world over with the international game its pinnacle. Screw how much harder is it to get a goal with an international class CB keeping half an eye on you with his buddies on tow. Screw the multitude of other matters which inform this topic. Because according to Tricky Colours rationale, we, every one of us on here are international ball capable strikers, and I for one am all for that. Because the goals are the same size, for us all.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Surely Paddy Madden averaging 20 at League One level trumps Amond scoring 30 at Vanarama level?

If O'Dowda can get a call up, surely Madden deserves one?

I thought he looked very busy in his cameo against Wales, unlucky not to score.

Certainly more deserving of a call up than Simon Cox.

[tricky_colour]

The opposition aren't the same quality though. You know that, I think, so we're going in circles here. And the idea that a single decent season in the Conference should equate to a position in a Euro 2016 squad is absolutely absurd, even for you Tricky. I wouldn't put Rory Gaffney in the Ireland team, or in a Premiership squad, and he just got promoted from the 4th to the 3rd tier.

That is a very weak arguement, it is cancelled out by the fact he willl be playing with better player on his side
so he will get better chances.

And neither would I because 1 goal every 3 games is very ordinary Amond is getting 3 in 4.

How many goals to you think Long would get in the same league? 3 a game?

Robbie would be getting 5 or 6 a match.

[TheBoss]

Just from general observation, but it seems the gap between the top half of the conference to the bottom half of League 1 is not that far apart imo. You see teams from the Conference regularly getting promoted or getting to the playoffs of League 2 and even if some cases challenging for promotion in League 1 when they get there.

[tricky_colour]

This swung it for me, got to say. Screw the natural ascension in levels which define the game the world over with the international game its pinnacle. Screw how much harder is it to get a goal with an international class CB keeping half an eye on you with his buddies on tow. Screw the multitude of other matters which inform this topic. Because according to Tricky Colours rationale, we, every one of us on here are international ball capable strikers, and I for one am all for that. Because the goals are the same size, for us all.

There is no so much of a gulf in class as you think, baring perhaps fitness.
Maybe that is what is letting him down, he is called "podge' after all..

But he is as skilful as any player I have seen in many respects.

He would convert more chances than Long although he might not get as many.

Take Gaffry who was mentioned.




I could have scored the first one and the second one, and I would not need two chances at it either.

Anyone can score a goal at any level if you are in the right spot and have a goal scorers instinct.

He is in form, not too sure about some of the strikers we are taking who only have vague recollections
of scoring a goal.

[tetsujin1979]

There is no so much of a gulf in class as you think, baring perhaps fitness.
Maybe that is what is letting him down, he is called "podge' after all..

Everyone who's called Padraig is nicknamed Podge

[osarusan]

I played football in the kitchen last night with my son. I scored 9 times and the goals are tiny - just the space between chair legs.

Call me up.

[DeLorean]

Not much chance of your son getting called up though I'm afraid.