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    Quote Originally Posted by French Toasht View Post
    We were in fact 4th seeds. And Slovakia were in fact 3rd seeds.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_2008_Qualification
    You are right about that, but really we were better than them then, even with Stan in charge, so it doesn't count as beating a team with a higher rank.

    I hope the others answers I gave were satisfying

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    They were indeed geysir, thanks.

    The yellow cards lasting the duration of the campaign seems very punitive to me. Whilst it is the same for every team, it seems to me come September, October time time next year, squads will be depleted due to suspensions and particularly with our 2nd "week of death" in September 2011, that could be disastrous. For example its very hard to see Richard Dunne going a whole 8 games without picking up a yellow card.

    I seem to remember in the 2002 campaign Roy Keane deliberately getting a yellow card in the game before Andorra so as to start again on a clean slate for the games against Holland and Portugal. Unfortunately as the only banker left for us in this group is in the final week, tactical suspensions would not be of that much benefit to us in that scenario. The only possible option to be tactical in that area would be for Dunne to pick up a yellow in the game against Slovakia next month, as his loss in a home game against Macedonia (which really we should be winning whether he is there or not) would not be as keenly felt as the in the week that will ultimately decide our fate next September.

    Anyone else think it was very unusual that Pavlyuchenko was on the bench for 70 minutes and Bilyaletdinov for 80 minutes. I know a lot of Everton fans say Bilyaletdinov is hit and miss at times, but has great pace and a serious left foot which you could see causing mayhem for Ireland.

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    Generally under Trap, our discipline (card wise) in the last campaign was very good.
    And generally we have enough problems with one or two players usually pulling out of a game with injury, without also having suspensions on top of that.

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    Fixtures for Friday 8th and Tuesday 12th Oct:

    08/10/2010 Armenia - Slovakia
    08/10/2010 Andorra - FYR Macedonia
    08/10/2010 Republic of Ireland - Russia

    12/10/2010 Armenia - Andorra
    12/10/2010 Slovakia - Republic of Ireland
    12/10/2010 FYR Macedonia - Russia
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    Squads:

    Russia:

    Goalkeepers: Igor Akinfeev (PFC CSKA Moskva), Vladimir Gabulov (FC Dinamo Moskva), Vyacheslav Malafeev (FC Zenit St. Petersburg).

    Defenders: Aleksandr Anyukov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Vasili Berezutski (PFC CSKA Moskva), Aleksei Berezutski (PFC CSKA Moskva), Sergei Ignashevich (PFC CSKA Moskva), Yuri Zhirkov (Chelsea FC), Sergei Parshivlyuk (FC Spartak Moskva).

    Midfielders: Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Everton FC), Igor Denisov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Konstantin Zyryanov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Roman Shirokov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Vladimir Bystrov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Alan Dzagoev (PFC CSKA Moskva), Pavel Mamaev (PFC CSKA Moskva), Igor Semshov (FC Dinamo Moskva).

    Forwards:
    Andrey Arshavin (Arsenal FC), Aleksandr Kerzhakov (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Roman Pavlyuchenko (Tottenham Hotspur FC), Pavel Pogrebnyak (VfB Stuttgart)



    Slovakia:

    Goalkeepers: Ján Mucha (Everton), Dušan Perniš (Dundee United FC), Martin Dúbravka (MŠK Žilina).

    Defenders:
    Peter Pekarík (VfL Wolfsburg), Martin Škrtel (Liverpool FC), Tomáš Hubočan (FC Zenit St. Petersburg), Kornel Saláta (ŠK Slovan Bratislava), Radoslav Zabavník (1. FSV Mainz 05), Mário Pečalka (MŠK Žilina).

    Midfielders: Miroslav Karhan (1. FSV Mainz 05), Juraj Kucka (AC Sparta Praha), Zdeno Štrba (Skoda Xanthi FC), Kamil Kopúnek (FC Saturn Moskovskaya Oblast), Marek Hamšík (SSC Napoli), Marek Sapara (MKE Ankaragücü), Vladimír Weiss (Rangers FC), Miroslav Stoch (Fenerbahce SK).

    Forwards: Stanislav Šesták (MKE Ankaragücü), Erik Jendrišek (FC Schalke 04), Filip Hološko (Beşiktaş JK), Tomáš Oravec (MŠK Žilina), Jakub Sylvestr (NK Dinamo Zagreb), Filip Šebo (ŠK Slovan Bratislava).

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    In case anyone is interested.....our esteemed manager, 'Il Trapattoni', will be appearing on "The Late Late Show" tonight.
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    Russia looks scary when it is laid out like that.
    I think we are better than the Slovies on paper.
    I could see us getting 1 from Russia and 3 from the Slovies on a last minute goal again. I could also see Arshavin shredding us if he is in the mood and Shay is rusty.

    Who will get hurt before the games? That is the question. Someone always does.
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    Seamus Coleman called up - replacement for Kelly?

    edit: confirmed Kelly and O'Dea ruled out

    http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...r-men&Itemid=8
    Last edited by Charlie Darwin; 01/10/2010 at 5:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Fixtures for Friday 8th and Tuesday 12th Oct:

    08/10/2010 Armenia - Slovakia
    08/10/2010 Andorra - FYR Macedonia
    08/10/2010 Republic of Ireland - Russia

    12/10/2010 Armenia - Andorra
    12/10/2010 Slovakia - Republic of Ireland
    12/10/2010 FYR Macedonia - Russia
    Its only right and proper we do enough to qualify ourselves - that said, Armenia on Friday and Macedonia on Tuesday could do us a huge favour on each night!!!!
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    How many points do you think we'll get over the two games?

    Optmistic hat on = 4

    Realist = 2.

    If I was smoking crack = 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    How many points do you think we'll get over the two games?

    Optmistic hat on = 4

    Realist = 2.

    If I was smoking crack = 6.
    I'll get back to you on that one, I may have resorted to smoking crack by Saturday to block out the horror of McShane getting repeatedly skinned by Russian wingers.
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    I think 1 or 3 is more realistic than 2, to be honest. Going unbeaten would be an excellent feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I'll get back to you on that one, I may have resorted to smoking crack by Saturday to block out the horror of McShane getting repeatedly skinned by Russian wingers.
    you will definitely be on crack if you think that mcshane has any chance of playing against Russia on Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    you will definitely be on crack if you think that mcshane has any chance of playing against Russia on Saturday.
    I hope you're right, Paul. I don't think he's as far away from starting as some might think!!!
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    Woflie think again about what you said and what i said.....
    I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Woflie think again about what you said and what i said.....
    Now I get ye - while nobody will believe me, I genuinely know the match is on Friday.

    I meant I'd hit the crack on Saturday having viewed the match the previous night.

    You'll just have to trust me on this one.
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    well technically you could be right as you did write it in a way that is open to interpretation wolfie!!!
    Last edited by paul_oshea; 05/10/2010 at 2:51 PM.
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    In case you needed some objective input - I understood Wolfie's reply for what it was, just as he intended - although I don't share the sentiment

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    !!!
    A girl has got hold of Paul's login details

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    Pavlychenko apparently out for Russia.

    Even so, their attacking options seem frightening. I am very worried about this game. Duff's injury has been a major blow. I'm still holding out a shred of hope for Trap's 10% estimation of probability that he would be fit and that he might make a 'miraculous' recovery on Thursday or over the weekend. Clutching at straws though, I know.
    I'm having sleepless nights thinking about the midfield and fullback situation. This really is gonna be a seriously tough game on Friday. A win would be undoubtedly Trap's greatest result with us and would have to rank alongside some of the greatest Irish wins. Supporting the Irish team is a scary business these days!

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