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    Graeme Souness and RTE

    I can barely believe I'm typing this, being a Celtic fan and all, but I think he could potentially be what our overpaid, disorganised prima-donnas need to sort themselves out...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/7066392.stm

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    No way. Useless manager. He'd get found out tactically.

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    Pretty much every other mananger we've had has gotten away with it

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    I sincerely hope Ireland gets the manager its fans deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Lord View Post
    I sincerely hope Ireland gets the manager its fans deserves.
    A good one I'll presume you mean which is definitely not Souness whose a pile of sh*te. One of the worst managers to get regular employment in the current game. A joke.

    Boumsoung for 8 million. What a plonker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy View Post
    I can barely believe I'm typing this, being a Celtic fan and all, but I think he could potentially be what our overpaid, disorganised prima-donnas need to sort themselves out...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/7066392.stm

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    Correct, i would Souness he wouldnt be long sorting them out. Robbie wouldnt be slouching around, The one thing that we need so much in the next manager is passion, even to the levels like Souness, i would him as manager anyway.

    His Rangers background shouldnt come into it at al thats only **** in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    A good one I'll presume you mean which is definitely not Souness whose a pile of sh*te. One of the worst managers to get regular employment in the current game. A joke.

    Boumsoung for 8 million. What a plonker.
    lucky we dont buy players then.......his no nonsense attitude would sort alot of our players out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by green army View Post
    lucky we dont buy players then.......his no nonsense attitude would sort alot of our players out.
    I doubt it tbh. He'd more than likely **** a number of our better players off instead who would then end up frozen out of the International setup. He has a history of falling out with players - Cole, Yorke, Bellamy to name but three (I'm sure there are more). I'd rather have our best players turning out for us under a half decent manager than our second string with a plonker in charge. Thanks but no thanks.

    Remind me again what has Souness ever done as a manager since leaving Rangers (besides destroying Liverpool and Newcastle)?

    Anyone suggesting Souness would be a good appointment for Ireland manager are either deluded or Souness under an alias.

    Souness, Brady. Two men with as dismal records as managers as you'd find in the professional game. I'd rather have Stan back to be honest. At least he was untried before his appointment.
    Last edited by youngirish; 29/10/2007 at 11:21 AM.

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    I'd rather have Stan back to be honest.

    Is this the worst comment ever, Id give the job to Eamonn Dunphy before Id have Stan back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viagogo View Post
    I'd rather have Stan back to be honest.

    Is this the worst comment ever, Id give the job to Eamonn Dunphy before Id have Stan back.
    If you think the likes of Souness or Brady are the type of manager that are going to help improve our lot then you really should seek help and soon before you harm yourself.

    Souness, can't believe some of these plonkers on here are even contemplating he would be anything other than a complete disaster of an appointment at the current time.
    Last edited by youngirish; 29/10/2007 at 11:21 AM.

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    I think Souness would bring much needed discipline but little else. No thanks.

    We want someone who could educate our players about the game. If Houllier came in I'd also give him a broader role to develop the game from all angles domestically and maybe encourage players to play abroad rather than second tier football in England.

    I think Houllier & Jol are both very credible candidates, for different reasons.

    I thought Houllier's Lyon side was one of the best CL teams in recent years.

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    let him stick to commentating. Big step backwards if we go down this route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    A good one I'll presume you mean which is definitely not Souness whose a pile of sh*te. One of the worst managers to get regular employment in the current game. A joke.

    Boumsoung for 8 million. What a plonker.
    I think you just proved Billy Lord's point.

    Souness has been at best a disappointment at almost every club he's been to. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    Souness, Brady. Two men with as dismal records as managers as you'd find in the professional game.
    He has managed in England, Scotland, Portugal and Turkey.

    He has won 4 SPL's, 4 League Scottish Cups, FA Cup, Turkish Cup, Turkish Super Cup, League Cup, Promotion.

    Not the dismal record you are saying.

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    I think he'd be good. If he gets the team working and gives them a kick up the arse we'd start improving. He did fall out with players, most notably Bellamy, but he's a whiny bítch, everyone knows it. Same could be said about Yorke and Cole. As well as that he wouldn't be working with the players week in, week out.

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    Would be a decent appointment but there's plenty better options.

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    Did well at Rangers, but they had no-one within touching distance.

    He won the FA Cup at Liverpool, but you can't use that to cover the dismal record he had there, taking them to also rans in the league, from which they've never really recovered. Against that Cup win, they lost three times in the Third Round to lower league opposition (all beginning with B, as I recall - Bristol City, Birmingham I think, and someone else).

    Did OK in Turkey, but I will admit to a gap in my knowledge of Turkish football. Nearly took Southampton down, sacked at Benfica after two poor years, largely failed at Blackburn after a good start, was a disaster at Newcastle and hasn't been around since, I think.

    He has a record of falling out with players at almost every club. Henning Berg's (I think) autobiography is hugely critical of him, basically saying he didn't have a notion. Berg went and overruled him in one game when they were playing some silly system which the players didn't understand; they got right back into the game, but Souness took Berg off and never played him again. Souness also got into a row with Dwight Yorke when creaming him in training and (I think) putting him out injured for a couple of weeks. Ended up nearly getting them relegated back to where he found them.

    A dismal record, all in all.

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    It's Souness on a two year contract for me i'm afraid....

    It's gone too far now for a Scholar of the game such as Houlier to shake them out of their general apathy. There may well be technically better managers as options but I'm starting to think there may be too much emphasis placed on the technical side of international management... After all how much exposure does the manager have to the players compared to to club football... There's no point in an international manager trying to engrain the 'Zone-al' defending in a team over a three day period for example.

    The big thing now is to get the players to want to player for Ireland and to weed out the players that only half want to play... They may not even know it themselves yet.. I think Sounness will drive players out, Yes. I also think Players will play for him, and I think Players will play in spite of him... Whatever happens, there won't be the level of indifference seen today under Sounnes.
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    I'd prefer someone who could crack the conundrum of players like Stephen Ireland or Aiden McGeady. Talented going forward but lightweight defensively. Stan just put them in and hoped for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I think Souness would bring much needed discipline but little else. No thanks.

    We want someone who could educate our players about the game. If Houllier came in I'd also give him a broader role to develop the game from all angles domestically and maybe encourage players to play abroad rather than second tier football in England.

    I think Houllier & Jol are both very credible candidates, for different reasons.

    I thought Houllier's Lyon side was one of the best CL teams in recent years.
    Agree with that and I see another worthy candidate, Foppe De Haan has entered the betting at Paddy Power.

    Souness management "style" has been proven totally ineffectual with professional footballers. You can lump him in with O'Leary, Keane etc., etc. and all the ex-Irish players, none are what we need at this time. What we do need is an "interested outsider".

    Paul McGrath as part of the team under a continental manager would be a good move and MCGrath has offered himself for this role.

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