France V Ireland - Wednesday, 18th November 2009 - World Cup 2010 Playoff Second Leg

**jebus** · 19/11/2009, 1:46 PM

Originally Posted by boovidge

Jebus, you're a terrible WUM.

And you don't like when people prove you wrong and so resort to that ridiculous argument.

Not one of you has been able to go against any of my points about us cheating against Georgia, or football being a sport of cheats by the way

I've just re-read this thread and there's only a handful that emerge with any credit to be fair (myself included of course

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

It is clear the linesman saw the handball as he had driect line of sight to it.
Which makes it match rigging bythe linesman.

Or it makes you an over-reactionary, much of a muchness really

**Wolfie** · 19/11/2009, 1:49 PM

A lot of hysteria and melodrama on here.

Lets discuss the facts - The simple and quantifiable truth is that the Irish White jersey is bad news. Evil in fact. No good will ever arise from the White Jersey.

**dahamsta** · 19/11/2009, 1:50 PM

jebus, you've make your point. Knock it on the head.

**lionelhutz** · 19/11/2009, 1:51 PM

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

Well, as i suspected all along, only Trap was doing his damnedest to prove otherwise, these lads can actually play.

Hope we can get the two Reids in the sqaud, Finnan one last hoorah and Rory Delap brought in for his throws.

I think your point lost all credibility with the part in bold.

**irishultra** · 19/11/2009, 1:55 PM

yeah he basically says the lads can actually play and then advocates a player like delap in the team. trap as much said after the game that this is the mentality wie will play with in future

**Scruttox** · 19/11/2009, 1:57 PM

1. Anyone see the linesman raise his flag a small bit then lower it again?

2. What would have happened if Irish team walked off after goal was awarded?

3. FIFA sanctioned a rematch between Uzbekistan v Bahrain a while back after a referee blunder. He gave a free out instead of a peno. The match was replayed in full.

**Noelys Guitar** · 19/11/2009, 2:01 PM

Some very powerful French people speaking out

Francois Bayrou, a former candidate for the French presidency: "In an ideal world, the match should be played again. I saw the match and like a lot of people I wasn't very proud, and like everyone else I asked why don't we have a video match official. It works in rugby and it works very well."

Leading French politician, Philippe De Villiers: "Raymond Domenech should express his public regrets and show a gesture of dignity towards Ireland. The moral of this match is that you can cheat as long as you don't get caught. The France team is going to be labelled for years as a team of cheats."

**Ozymandias** · 19/11/2009, 2:01 PM

Originally Posted by passinginterest

Cheating in football is an intrinsic part of the game, handballs, pushing, jersey pulling, obstruction, Ireland have scored plenty of goals where fouls have been missed in the build up it happens in football everyday.

I'm devestated that we lost, truly sick, but I'm not going to have a canary about cheating when we had so many chances to win the game without worrying about it.

but it doesn't make what happened right..it doesn't justify in any shape or form

**markmc** · 19/11/2009, 2:02 PM

Looks like the story is getting bigger. There is precedence for this also.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive...sid=27212.html

**pineapple stu** · 19/11/2009, 2:03 PM

Have you a link for the FAI complaint?

There is no precedence for a replay. That game was a completely different scenario, as pointed out by several posters on another thread in this forum in the last hour or so.

**Noelys Guitar** · 19/11/2009, 2:03 PM

Originally Posted by markmc

Looks like the story is getting bigger. There is precedence for this also.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive...sid=27212.html

And they will have a lot of French support.

Francois Bayrou, a former candidate for the French presidency: "In an ideal world, the match should be played again. I saw the match and like a lot of people I wasn't very proud, and like everyone else I asked why don't we have a video match official. It works in rugby and it works very well."

Leading French politician, Philippe De Villiers: "Raymond Domenech should express his public regrets and show a gesture of dignity towards Ireland. The moral of this match is that you can cheat as long as you don't get caught. The France team is going to be labelled for years as a team of cheats."

**markmc** · 19/11/2009, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Have you a link for the FAI complaint?

There is no precedence for a replay. That game was a completely different scenario, as pointed out by several posters on another thread in this forum in the last hour or so.

I dont have a link, It was reported on radio 1.

**TheBoss** · 19/11/2009, 2:06 PM

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/...e_ireland.html

**Noelys Guitar** · 19/11/2009, 2:07 PM

If French public opinion demands a replay then we will have a replay. Nothing else will work.

**Jofspring** · 19/11/2009, 2:08 PM

The match in 2005 was re-played due to a technical error of a law. There was no technical error last night. A hand ball wasn't spotted so two different situations.

**markmc** · 19/11/2009, 2:09 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

If French public opinion demands a replay then we will have a replay. Nothing else will work.

FIFA dont give a hoot about what the public wants, Blatter wants his wallet filled. If we get a collection for Blatter then we might get a replay.

**Leinster Lim** · 19/11/2009, 2:10 PM

The FAI should keep up the pressure and publicity if only to shame Henry into not pulling the same stunt again on some other unsuspecting national side.

**dr_peepee** · 19/11/2009, 2:11 PM

"The handball was recognised by the FIFA commissioner, the referee observer and the match officials, as well as by the player himself," the FAI said.

Where was it acknowledged by these I wonder?? In writing??

**pineapple stu** · 19/11/2009, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by markmc

Blatter wants his wallet filled. If we get a collection for Blatter then we might get a replay.

Where's Denis O'Brien when you need him?

**elroy** · 19/11/2009, 2:13 PM

Based on radio reports, pressure is growing in france as well and the story is getting bigger and bigger. High profile French people on the tv for example claiming that the FFF offer Ireland a replay. I cant see FIFA doing anything for us on this, our only hope is that the FFF offer a replay. The story is growing though, its full time news on sky sports, on the bbc website, on espn, l'equipe, gazzetta dello sport. Im not sure why Trap didnt call for a replay, whats the worst that could happen.