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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    as far as i know mafi could never play for ireland as he played 1 game of sevens for new zeland..
    Warwick is in the same situation.
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    Is Andrew Lonergan eligible again?

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    Isn't there some questionable element over the rules for being capped at sevens or underage? I think by the current rules thats the case but I've heard speculation that appeals under certain circumstances could allow Mafi and Warwick to play for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    .... but I thought we had now pretty much established that Trap has indeed cast the net as wide as he can, the Andy Reid situation being a different story.
    True. Can't argue with that. But was he at Fratton park yesterday to watch Finnan?? Especially given how weak we are at left full. (I know he's a RB btw but there's options if he comes back at right full)... How much of Ward did he see before he got injured. Again LF is crucial...

    Lee Carsley and Rory Delap both played in the middle yesterday. I don't buy into this long throw lark with Delap either. Given Trapps limited expectations of his CMs there's no reason why Delap couldn't come in...

    Nah. Trapp has done an awfull lot to be commended for, without a shadow of a doubt but he's been lacking in his efforts outside of the international fixtures lists and allocated time..

    Cappello for me ticks every box in terms of his off the pitch attitude to international football...
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    English managers are bound by contract to make PR appearances at so many EPL games per season.

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    I don't see what the major fuss is tbh. If they could add to the squad then let Trap have a look at them. There haven't been any noises from any of their camps though to indicate that they'd be willing to change allegiance.

    As for the argument that journeymen internationals don't try as hard I'd say it's the opposite. If someone's smart enough to realise that this is going to improve their career prospects then they'd be mad to turn up and go through the motions.

    Paul Butler had a nightmare 45 minutes, I don't think he was a saboteur. John Mackem was woeful, but Babb and McAteer joined up pre 94 and went on to have long careers with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twoenz View Post
    I don't see what the major fuss is tbh. If they could add to the squad then let Trap have a look at them. There haven't been any noises from any of their camps though to indicate that they'd be willing to change allegiance.
    I'd say players in this position and I'm thinking especially of Naughton here would play their cards very close to their chest. We are an option for him and he's entitled to consider it. However he will possibly come under considerble pressure from Spurs and may have previously done with Sheffield United not to switch as, straight up, he's worth more in tranfers as an England international than as an Ireland international.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    I'd say players in this position and I'm thinking especially of Naughton here would play their cards very close to their chest. We are an option for him and he's entitled to consider it. However he will possibly come under considerble pressure from Spurs and may have previously done with Sheffield United not to switch as, straight up, he's worth more in tranfers as an England international than as an Ireland international.

    At the same time he's going to be worth a lot more as an international that played in a World Cup as opposed to someone who never played for a country. Nolan, Naughton and O'Hara would need a nuclear holocaust to be in the running for an international tournament in the next few years with England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    English managers are bound by contract to make PR appearances at so many EPL games per season.
    Speaking of which I have to say whenever I'm watching a british commentated premiership game I'm so sick of seeing the camera pan in on capello which the commentator will inevitably follow up with " [english player x + y] will be sure to playing extra hard to impress capello"

    Firstly I doubt they know he's there and secondly he and his coaching panel are probably watching every game and performance anyway. Just a really annoying thing they keep pointing out.

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    Wait Naughton's a right back. We have 3 or 4 of those better than him, why would he be of any interest to us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    English managers are bound by contract to make PR appearances at so many EPL games per season.
    Propper Order too.. There's more than merely PR to be gained by it aswell.

    It's everything else Cappello does too. The balance of consistency and scanning in his sqauds. The sound bites after games. The fact he had all players that played in the campaign attend the Belerus match regardless of whether they were in the sqaud or not. It's inclusive without affording complacency.... I've been advocating posts the idea of a manager being" inclusive" since McCarthy.

    Can you believe there was a time when a fit and regularly playing S Reid and Dunne had no idea where they stood with Ireland under Kerr. No call, no contact. There was no reason for that. It's true that there has to be some sort of professional distance between players and managers, but it's an adult relationship at the end of the day and I think alot of managers forget that....

    The days of a Brian Clough only speaking to the first team, literally, are long gone. How many players have fallen out with John Toshak????.....

    I still think Trapp should be doing more outside the fixture lists. With the money he's on, a flight to England every second weekend should not be out of the question, especially coming up to Nov 13th... He was quoted as questioning/wondering/hoping if Finnan will even be the same player after his comback. Valid question indeed. He started yesterday against Spurs??? Game in a few weeks. Left full is a serious weak spot. There are avenues not being exhausted. I don't think I expect too much from someone on 2m in the current environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfinator View Post
    Wait Naughton's a right back. We have 3 or 4 of those better than him, why would he be of any interest to us?
    Good to see you've done your research there!! + your saying McShane is better than him???

    He infact began life in the Sheff Utd 1st team at right full, played a few in centre mid, centre back + 1 or 2 at right mid but towards the end of last season for about about 15 games he played left back. Most observers reckon he could easily play centre mid as he is a great tackler & was better than most in the matches he played at passing the ball around. His one great ability without doubt is his pace & at times was compared to being in the Ashley Cole mould. He seems to be going nowhere fast at spurs though & as he was involved with england U16's,U18's,U19's he was being talked about by Brady, trying to get him to switch to Eire but I don't know if any official approach was ever made but I'm sure the fact he had played for england in all the under-age groups & the fact he was a Sheffield local + grew up as a Blades fan(big england fanbase) then this swung his loyalty when Stuart Pearce came calling with an offer for england U21's.

    All the same I think he would be great for us but as previously stated, in my view he would see himself as english & Eire would be a fallback for him + his heart would probably not be in it(just me speculating there) & his lack of games of late would mean he's a definate non-starter for us before the play-offs & most probably the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellco88 View Post
    I was merely making the point that we have good enough players in the premiership without looking for players who might qualify.

    And no need for the personal remarks.
    Fair enough, maybe I misread your original post, it's something I feel very strongly about. Apologies for any offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave View Post
    Name one.... apart from Paul Butler, obviously.
    Bernie Slaven. Said in his autobiography that he spent all of Italia 90 hoping Ireland would lose so he could go home to his dogs!!!

    Owen Coyle. Declared for us at 28 when there was no sign of a Scotland call up, got his reward with 7 minutes against Holland.

    Theres 2!

    Oh and John Macken.
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    Lads Nolan was in Coppers during ithe summer. If that does not qualify for him to play for Ireland I dont know what does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkCut View Post
    Bernie Slaven. Said in his autobiography that he spent all of Italia 90 hoping Ireland would lose so he could go home to his dogs!!!
    I think it's a disgrace he would have described his wife and mother-in-law in such a manner in his autobiography, but there you are.
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    Didn't he also say something along the lines of Chris Hughton being a worse caretaker than Ian Huntley. I wouldn't be in favor of letting these guys join this late in the campaign. If they want to join for the start of the next Qualification campaign then fair enough but to introduce them now could have a detrimental effect on team moral not to mention the fact that it kind of cheapens international football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkCut View Post
    Owen Coyle. Declared for us at 28 when there was no sign of a Scotland call up, got his reward with 7 minutes against Holland.

    We have written about Owen, many times on this board.
    He declared for Ireland before he was 21 when there was also an offer to join up with the Scottish u21 squad. Owen says there was no decision to make as it was an obvious choice for him.
    At the time, he also knew he was getting called up into the Irish squad for the u21 game against Scotland, where he gained his first cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post

    We have written about Owen, many times on this board.
    He declared for Ireland before he was 21 when there was also an offer to join up with the Scottish u21 squad. Owen says there was no decision to make as it was an obvious choice for him.
    At the time, he also knew he was getting called up into the Irish squad for the u21 game against Scotland, where he gained his first cap.
    Did not realise he played U21. Thank you for the correction.
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    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle194295.html

    Gary Cahill is the latest to be linked, would add an option at CB but I've not heard anything from the player himself, considering he has played U-21 & was in Englands most recent squad it is probably a tenuous link

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