Yes, I would imagine that many watched on Sky.Originally Posted by eirebhoy
I didn't say they should play in Ireland under the current conditions, I said it's a shame conditions don't permit so they can't.
My main point were that Ireland, Kiely and Andy O Brien were players who I respected and followed at one and they all let me down by being disrespectful to our countries team. And having your national team crapped all over like that by 3 different players in 2 years as well as Joey O Brien's "play me or I'll reject call ups" stance really makes it difficult to be proud with the setup. Not least to mention the assistant under stan called our team "british".
I'm proud of individuals on the team like Doyle, Dunne, Hunt, Duff, Kilbane and Given, mind.
Yes, I would imagine that many watched on Sky.
ha, I didn't come here on to talk about GAA, I saw some very unfair things being said about people who enjoy GAA matches and spoke out against them, thats all.
I am a soccer fan, mostly for European leagues, I don't follow the LOI in depth so I'm here for the national forum.
How can you consider yourself an Irishman if you don't involve yourself passionately enough in your community to support your local league team?
Why is that whenever the Gah is mentioned on this site everyone goes gaga?
In fairness Stu, in defence of the lad, you could ask the same question to the vast majority of people who support football in this country. Sad perhaps but true.
Absolutely you could. I just wanted to draw attention to the seeming contradiction in his argument.
I think we're quite tame and generally fair, there is even a dedicated thread in the other sports section to discuss gaa amongst those of us who have an interest of sorts. Compare that to the barrage of abuse that is thrown when soccer is discussed on some gaa forums, an fear rua for example but that is tame compared to the likes of premierview where you may well be castrated for such talk. seriously.
Yep, I agree. There is a certain amount of rising blood pressure, but my post was more an attempt at lightening the mood than anything else really.
Maybe I should've spelled "gaga" GahGah.
Have a look at Munsters average turnout over the season for Magners League games and then come back to me and tell me they fill Thomond or Musgrave Park with ease.
i take ur points Murfinator and agree with you..you may explain about the "british" remark?..i dont recall it..Kevin Mc Donald was it?...ur other points are true tho...Cant explain Ireland..J O' Brien was living in dream world if he thought he should be playing..Andy seemed to think he got unfair abuse after Cyprus and Kiely may have had a point....
at the end of the day(to use a football Cliche) im a proud Irishman and a passionate soccer fan and have been going to Ireland matches since 1989 and will continue to support and follow them no matter who is in charge or where the players are playing or whatever.
There's no team from my entire county in either divisions.
http://www.magnersleague.com/statzon...dance.php#3543
They had an average attendance of almost 18,000 in the magners league. That figure is excluding showpiece games like the all blacks or Heineken Cup games which would be sell outs.
So a typical weekly game with the Munster reserves versus another Celtic team rakes in nearly double than the national Irish soccer team is getting. Can you see the extent of my point now?
Yeah it was Kevin McDonald, I actually saw the quote on these forums about 2 years ago, it was during a pre or post match interview on an american site where he was talking about some team where he said something along the lines of the weather conditions not suiting british teams. Sorry for the sketchy details but it was a while ago.
I mentioned nothing about your county. Plenty of inter-county support going on in the LoI.There's no team from my entire county in either divisions.
In fairness, I think the vast majority of fans have that attitude. But I think the point Murf was making was that for people who aren't really fans (or for people who might possibly become fans), for a lot of those people, it does make a difference that our players play in England and aren't visibly associated with Ireland except when they put the jersey on.
So the fact that our players play mostly in England makes no difference to a fan; but it does make a difference for people who only take a passing interest in the team.
I don't think it's much of a point myself as it has little substantive relevance: even if the players played in Ireland I don't think it would increase interest on a national level all that much.
It would make a bit of difference though: for example, in Kerry a lot of the Gaelic players are very visible around the county (eg working at the bank counter, teachers), and that certainly helps to create a bond between the team and people who wouldn't otherwise take a huge interest in the team. There's a great sense that "they're our lads" kind of thing. Of course for those of us who love the team anyway, they could work in Timbuktu for all we care; but I evidentially know for sure, and it stands to reason, that the peripheral support is greater because of the visibility and local link of the players.
It's a bit of a moot point in this context as we're a long way off having significant international representation sourced from the domestic league. But if there was, I'd bet viewing figures would be even higher. To close on a a more practical point - maybe the international players could do a bit more PR work in Ireland?
Obviously Limerick is a rugby city. I think if the game was in Cork it would attract a lot more people.
Always look on the bright side of life
As a little by the by to show the immense relevance of TAM ratings, The Rose Of Tralee had higher figures than the Cyrpus match.
I think this proves beyond all reasonable doubt that watching a retard like Ray D'Arcy has become a more attractive activity than watching the Irish football team. Despair! Irish football is in crisis!
You said my local team, I don't have a local team. I'd have to travel over an hour to get to the nearest LoI venue.
It was their showpiece game for the year.
Personally, I dont understand the need to compare the figures or what they are actually trying to suggest. Are they simply saying that GAA games are better than "soccer" because the final got more viewers than the Cyprus away game? Surely, they cant be that petty.
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