Irish Wolves and Opposition Irish

**Carrigaline** · 12/04/2012, 10:00 AM

Wolves effectively relegated last night with QPR and Wigan both winning. Other than Jarvis setting Doyle up with a great chance, there was almost no threat whatsoever from Wolves. Ward struggled and Doyle worked tirelessly but saw almost none of the ball.

**tetsujin1979** · 12/04/2012, 11:48 AM

It was a fantastic save from Szczesny to deny Doyle a goal though

**shakermaker1982** · 12/04/2012, 11:51 AM

Sad to see so many Irish players getting relegated.

Hunt hasn't had much of a run this season. Could he be in danger of losing his spot for the Euro 2012 squad?

**paul_oshea** · 12/04/2012, 12:11 PM

Injuries throughout the season plus loss of form. Should definitely be considered that he does lose to the likes of Mclean who is in a completely different state both physically and mentally, even with 3 average recent past performances, but you would feel bad for him,his only chance to figure in a major Finals.

**Stuttgart88** · 12/04/2012, 12:54 PM

If these decisions were 100% rational, McClean would take Hunt's place.

These decisons aren't always cold-light-of-day-rational though, nor should they be. I think, kind of.

I'd pick McClean if it was my call, but I'd wait until the last minute before committing because a late injury might rescue me from having to make a hard call.

**Carrigaline** · 12/04/2012, 2:32 PM

Hunt will definitely be going. I think the choice that Trap has is whether to take Coleman or McClean.

**Stuttgart88** · 12/04/2012, 2:52 PM

good point

**Carrigaline** · 14/04/2012, 2:03 PM

Foley at right back and Ward at left back for Wolves today. Even thought they are relegated, it's important for their confidence to have a good performance against a team they can get a result against.

**theworm2345** · 14/04/2012, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Carrigaline

Foley at right back and Ward at left back for Wolves today. Even thought they are relegated, it's important for their confidence to have a good performance against a team they can get a result against.

Forde starting as well.

**Carrigaline** · 14/04/2012, 2:52 PM

Foley has done ok so far, hasn't paniced with the ball or given it away easily. Ward has tried to get forward as he does like to do, but that has left space in at left-back, he also conceded possession sloppily a few times. Would like to see Forde getting a bit more on the ball, could be an interesting prospect.

**Carrigaline** · 14/04/2012, 3:18 PM

Forde off for Jarvis. He did alright, a little sloppy at times, but tried a few shots which shows he has some confidence.

**paul_oshea** · 22/04/2012, 4:34 PM

awful bad again today.ward leaving loads of space out left as usual...which leads to a second goal for nasri

**Colbert Report** · 22/04/2012, 5:21 PM

Both of the Wolves full backs were terrible today, neither one is Premiership standard. Not sure if they're even Championship to be honest. Ward especially looked like he was playing the wrong sport.

**Charlie Darwin** · 22/04/2012, 5:37 PM

Ward was playing further advanced than Jarvis for most of the second half. That would never have happened under Mick. However bad they were under Mick, they completely lack direction now, which is a shame because they did actually outplay City until the first goal today.

**TrapAPony** · 22/04/2012, 5:53 PM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Both of the Wolves full backs were terrible today, neither one is Premiership standard. Not sure if they're even Championship to be honest. Ward especially looked like he was playing the wrong sport.

Wilson should be Ireland's left back and not Ward but alas Ward is probably one of the first names on Trapattoni's team sheet

**gastric** · 23/04/2012, 2:21 AM

Originally Posted by TrapAPony

Wilson should be Ireland's left back and not Ward but alas Ward is probably one of the first names on Trapattoni's team sheet

Parallels with Mick's continued use of Ian Harte at left back at the WC in Japan and Korea when he was continually exposed. Time will tell!

**Carrigaline** · 23/04/2012, 9:32 AM

Originally Posted by TrapAPony

Wilson should be Ireland's left back and not Ward but alas Ward is probably one of the first names on Trapattoni's team sheet

Is Wilson the answer? Ben Arfa made mincemeat out of him just this very weekend.

**Carrigaline** · 23/04/2012, 9:38 AM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Both of the Wolves full backs were terrible today, neither one is Premiership standard. Not sure if they're even Championship to be honest. Ward especially looked like he was playing the wrong sport.

I don't think Foley did that badly, he made a few mistakes, but the City attacks led to nothing most of the time. Ward on the other hand was shocking. You could drive a bus through the space that he was leaving open, and it if wasn't for some wasteful shooting from Aguero, the goal tally for Man City could easily have been double or triple what it was.

**Carrigaline** · 23/04/2012, 9:45 AM

Originally Posted by gastric

Parallels with Mick's continued use of Ian Harte at left back at the WC in Japan and Korea when he was continually exposed. Time will tell!

Ward has only got the first choice left back position because of injuries and lack of alternatives. It would not surprise me at all if O'Shea ended up taking his position with St. Ledger and Dunne slotting in at centre back.

Still, I wish we had a fit and younger Kevin Kilbane to put in there, he would relish playing in this tournament.

**Stuttgart88** · 23/04/2012, 10:44 AM

I only saw highlights and it looked like Wolves were repeadedly undone by balls in behind the centre backs. OK, you could argue that a more vigilant full back will anticipate when the CBs will be stretched but I think singling out Ward is harsh - unless I missed some specific examples of him being poor.

Bear in mind that Trap's Ireland will be better set up than Wolves - in theory anyway. I'm hoping that June will be more like Slovakia away than Moscow away. Paris would be ideal.