Transfer rumours - Summer 2009

**SkStu** · 22/06/2009, 7:03 PM

worm, i got to agree with the rest of the posters, you are way off on this one.

**theworm2345** · 22/06/2009, 9:00 PM

Originally Posted by youngirish

Worm you know little about Doyle if you think he can only score goals from 4 yards out that are handed to him on a plate. I've seen him score 25 yard screamers, bicycle kicks from the edge of the box, goals where he's run from the halfway line to beat the last defender to the ball and slot it in from 18 yards out and tons of other types of goal too numerous to recap. He also creates goals for other players, is very skillful, works very hard for the team, all qualities you brush aside without even a mention. If Doyle had played for Wolves last season and had the service that Ebanks Blake was receiving from Kightly he'd have scored far more goals imo.

Iwelumo is a very average Championship level player, LuaLua is a poor striker by any account, Fortune done little to nothing in the Premiership last season. To suggest any of these players are nearly as good as one of our most talented international players is ludicrous and shows that while indeed you might watch Wolves occasionally you certainly aren't watching much football of any other kind to enable you to make legitimate comparisons between players.

P.S. Doesn't Michael Owen only score goals from 4 yards out?

I have 39 of the 56 goals Doyle has scored for Reading on video on my Desktop (I did say he has scored some decent ones for Ireland if you weren't reading), unless the remaining 17 are all these wonder goals you describe I don't see how I could be wrong, I'll happily upload the videos if you don't believe me. The majority of the goals I missed are from Tuesday matches because those used to be unfindable.

Again, please tell me where I said they were as good players as Doyle is, you are the second person to suggest I said that and still have not shown where I did. I simply said I do no want him at Wolves because I believe the money could be going to a player who could shore up the midfield or defense. Hell I never even said I wanted Fortune, LuaLua, Owen, or Martins (who everyone seems to have forgotten I mentioned), I just said if Wolves were going to get a striker I'd prefer them to Doyle. I also said this would be good move for Ireland. I swear people here only read half of what is written sometimes.

I've just gone back and watched all of those 39 goals. There were a few penalties (all of which were while he played in the EPL), two from outside the box (one of which the keeper probably should've gotten), about 28 tap-ins or headers from 6 yards, and the one scissors kick. The funny thing is in '05-'06 he does actually appear to be the striker I am describing who is actually capable of scoring more than tap-ins or penalties but since then he does not with 3 of his 6 goals actually requiring more than one touch (including that scissors kick).

**DmanDmythDledge** · 22/06/2009, 9:21 PM

Originally Posted by theworm2345

Again, please tell me where I said they were as good players as Doyle is, you are the second person to suggest I said that and still have not shown where I did.

Here:

Originally Posted by theworm2345

To be honest I'd prefer Iwelumo and Ebanks-Blake to Doyle and either of them

and here:

Originally Posted by theworm2345

There are other strikers available though who have EPL experience (and goals) who I believe are better than Doyle. Realistically, I was hoping to get Marc Antoine-Fortune if any striker though to be honest I don't think scoring goals will be much of a problem next year, its the defense I'm worried about. Michael Owen, Lomana LuaLua, Henri Camara, or Obafemi Martins would be nice as well.

You're not actually saying that you would prefer players who you think are worse than Doyle?

I simply said I do no want him at Wolves because I believe the money could be going to a player who could shore up the midfield or defense.

You've said that nowhere. Stop lying. Just admit what you said (it's black and white FFS) and try and argue your point rather than making stuff up.

Hell I never even said I wanted Fortune, LuaLua, Owen, or Martins (who everyone seems to have forgotten I mentioned), I just said if Wolves were going to get a striker I'd prefer them to Doyle.

You do realise that's what people are actually pulling you up on?

I also said this would be good move for Ireland. I swear people here only read half of what is written sometimes.

Well you have not said that in thread.

People have read exactly what you've written. Nobody can guess what are apparantly when in fact it's just a crap attempt at a back track.

Originally Posted by theworm2345

3 goals from December on this year and 2 from December on the year before

So goals before December don't count?

His second season with Reading he was played out of position on the right wing. Of course you know that but you'd prefer to ignore that fact. It's also common knowledge that he struggled with injuries in the second half of the season and when he recovered Coppell did not want to change his team.

and all were from 6 yards or less (though one was not just a freebie and actually a nice header).

You do realise that what strikers generally do?

And how do you think he got in those positions? There's loads more aspects to goalscoring than actually finishing when you get the ball. Off the ball movement and positioning, amongst other things, are vital. There's very few strikers with better movement in the Premiership than Doyle.

**theworm2345** · 22/06/2009, 9:37 PM