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    Owen Coyle

    Not sure if he's had a thread, but he definitely deserves it.

    Done a great job at Burnley and it'd be quality to see him battle his wits in the Premiership. Remember hearing the Burnley chairman herald him as the New Shankley - a bold statement, but he obviously has the knack of successfully moulding together a couple of old heads with a lot of aspiring talent and youth, which is essentially where we are at these days.

    I'd love him to become our next manager as he's exactly what we need after Old Trap has kicked a bit of discipline into them. Ambition is obviously burning brightly in him and if he has the same sense of passion that a lot of us brought up over here have got he'll be in it for the long term and want to take us to the very top.

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    Ludicrous to talk about giving him an international job on the back of one (very good) season as a manager. Let's not forget what happened to Paul Jewell after a very good season that saw him be linked with the job. Let's just hope Coyle continues to do as well as he's been doing, and maybe one day he could do the business for us too. Same goes for players showing promise, lets let them develop before thrusting them in to a role they may not be up for just yet.

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    Coyle had to register as a player I think because they were hit with many injuries. Scored in the reserves I think as well and I can't remember but might've scored in the England vs Ireland legends game. He said he wouldn't play (and didn't name himself in any squads) but I just wonder if he'd be tempted to name himself in a squad if they got hit with injuries next year (I think Stuart Pearce named himself in a few squads when at City).
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    Definitely one to watch for the future; however, if Trap qualifies us and wants to stick around, that will probably be the first option.

    If we qualify, and he doesn't stick around, then I'd say Brady and/or Tardelli would be allowed to continue.

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    Now I could go on about OC but I won't as most can guess how I feel about him at this moment in time

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    Outstanding young manager, as is his Preston counterpart.

    Burnley nearly lost the plot altogether in Feb/March I think, narrowly losing about 5 or 6 on the trot I think. He did really well to get them back in shape again, something Mick & McLeish just about managed to do with their teams following a similar rut, but Coppell failed to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Ludicrous to talk about giving him an international job on the back of one (very good) season as a manager. Let's not forget what happened to Paul Jewell after a very good season that saw him be linked with the job. Let's just hope Coyle continues to do as well as he's been doing, and maybe one day he could do the business for us too. Same goes for players showing promise, lets let them develop before thrusting them in to a role they may not be up for just yet.
    Yeah, have to agree. I think Coyles done a brilliant job but at present he's done roughly the same as McCarthy did with Millwall (play offs) before he got the Ireland job so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

    Definitely one to watch for the future though, always thought it was a shame he didn't get more caps, could've been in the 94 WC squad for me once Quin was ruled out especially with Cas carrying a knock (would have been harsh leaving any of the 22 out mind you given that most had played some part in the qualifiers and those that hadn't were actually in or around the first 11 by the time the tournament rolled around).

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    Has the potential to become a great manager, but I can't see him managing ROI, tbh.

    For one thing, international management is no longer the pinnacle of a manager's career - see, for example, how Mark Hughes, Walter Smith/Alec McLeish, even Lawrie Sanchez were notably successful with Wales/Scot/NI, before joining clubs which could hardly be described as huge. Therefore if Coyle can manage in the Premiership, either with Burnley or someone else, why would he want to move? David Moyes, for example, could have had the Scotland job had he wanted it, but has never shown any interest.

    Speaking of which, even if Coyle did fancy a spell managing an international team as a "stepping stone", I'd imagine he and Scotland would appeal more to each other than he and ROI.

    Of course, the sort of money Trapattoni is on would likely tempt him, but Coyle is hardly a big enough "name" for some Sugar Daddy to offer him a package comparable to Trap's. And let's be honest, Trap wouldn't have accepted the ROI job when he was an up-and-coming manager around Coyle's age, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post

    Speaking of which, even if Coyle did fancy a spell managing an international team as a "stepping stone", I'd imagine he and Scotland would appeal more to each other than he and ROI.
    Why's that? Like when he was a player?

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    Why would he want to manage Scotland when he can have the pick of Ireland's, Northern Ireland's and some of Scotland's best young players if he were to manage the Republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    Why would he want to manage Scotland when he can have the pick of Ireland's, Northern Ireland's and some of Scotland's best young players if he were to manage the Republic
    Ha!! Quality
    I pity the fool!.... But suggest ways that he might improve himself.

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    Originally Posted by EalingGreen:
    "Speaking of which, even if Coyle did fancy a spell managing an international team as a "stepping stone", I'd imagine he and Scotland would appeal more to each other than he and ROI"

    Quote Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er View Post
    Why's that? Like when he was a player?
    Yeah, you're right, why would be attracted to managing Scotland? After all, he was only born and brought up there. And played for 12 Scottish clubs. And managed two Scottish clubs before moving to England.

    Much more likely that he'd prefer ROI, on the basis of a seven minute appearance as substitute for the ROI in a friendly in Tillberg, at the age of 28, following the FAI's exhumation/discovery of his Irish Granny (or whatever). The fact that he was never remotely good enough to play for Scotland obviously had nothing to do with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf View Post
    Not sure if he's had a thread, but he definitely deserves it.

    Done a great job at Burnley and it'd be quality to see him battle his wits in the Premiership. Remember hearing the Burnley chairman herald him as the New Shankley - a bold statement, but he obviously has the knack of successfully moulding together a couple of old heads with a lot of aspiring talent and youth, which is essentially where we are at these days.

    I'd love him to become our next manager as he's exactly what we need after Old Trap has kicked a bit of discipline into them. Ambition is obviously burning brightly in him and if he has the same sense of passion that a lot of us brought up over here have got he'll be in it for the long term and want to take us to the very top.
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    great start for the fella - lets hope he builds on it.

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    Until reading this thread, I assumed Owen Coyle considered himself Scottish. I'd forgotten his international cap.

    Next Irishman for higher-profile job: could be Rodgers going from Watford to Reading?

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    Lads not one for usually saying lets get back on topic. But this thread has really been hijacked. Owen Coyle is a manager with great potential and comes across really well. If we become too PC we will lose the whole pointn of this forum
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    Exactly , Stay on topic please

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavo View Post
    Exactly , Stay on topic please
    Ddidn't see all the posts that were removed but think it's too much deleting some of the amusing tounge in cheek comments, the site could seriously do with a humour transplant at times. No offence bu in comparison to other forums the mods can be like the stasi on here on occasion when it comes to 'on topic'.

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    Look a lot will have not seen Burnley play this season or just seen a couple of minutes taken from highlights . Now if any of you get chance to see the play off final you will soon see the way he wants his side to play , on the ground pass and move .
    These are heady times at Burnley most have not seen this kind of football played at Turf Moor for over 30 years OC is the reason for this and nobody else .
    Those who have seen Stoke play this season then this is the same way as Sheff Utd just hoofball that's all .
    OC can go a long way in this game but will he one day manage Ireland is yet to be seen .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret Murph View Post
    These are heady times at Burnley most have not seen this kind of football played at Turf Moor for over 30 years OC is the reason for this and nobody else...those who have seen Stoke play this season then this is the same way as Sheff Utd just hoofball that's all. OC can go a long way in this game but will he one day manage Ireland is yet to be seen
    Aye, I've seen five or six Burnley games on TV this season and they look good. OC's problem, if you go up, will be similar to that faced by Mowbray at WBA this term. Whatever Stoke have done, it seems to have worked.

    D9-69er: can only speak for myself, but the deleted comment was drearily predictable rather than tongue-in-cheek funny, alas...

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    I remember when Coyle got the job and think what a terrible move by Burnley. But he has really surprised me. He's put together a squad at Burnley. He's go about his career in the right way. Started at the bottom worked his way up. People forget the job he did at St. Johnstone.

    I think if Burley get the bullet of the S.F.A he'll be top of the list given his knowledge of the Scottish and getting the best out of average players. But if he takes or not is another thing. Can see him becoming Celtic manager more so than an international coach.

    By the way Ealing Green, how caps did Giovanni Trapattoni get for Ireland?

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