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    Bulgaria are most certainly not out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Bulgaria are most certainly not out.
    Bulgaria will not win all 4 remaining games and we will do enough that logically they are out. Most certainly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Bulgaria will not win all 4 remaining games and we will do enough that logically they are out. Most certainly.
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    Bulgaria have Montenegro at home in their next match. Likely a Bulgaria win.

    Italy away in the next match after that. Likely a draw or a loss.

    Away to Cyprus. Win or draw.

    Home to Georgia. Win.

    They'll very likely win at least two out of those four matches. They could win three and draw the Italians away, putting them on eighteen points total.

    That means we'd need six points from our last three matches to get nineteen points and the play-off spot, if it is even available to us. I have a funny feeling that we'll finish second and not get into the play-offs.

    We have Cyprus away, then Italy and Montenegro at home. Would you be willing to bet we get at least two out of three wins there? Very very tricky. We're not out of the woods just yet.

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    Anyone got a link to an up to date 2nd place qualifying table?

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    This table is wrong, after tonight games heres the table

    1 France played 5, 10pts
    =2 Bosnia played 5, 9pts
    =2 Russia played 4, 9pts
    =4 Hungary played 4, 7pts
    =4 Switzerland played 5, 7pts
    =4 N Ireland played 5, 7pts
    =4 Rep Ireland played 5, 7pts
    =4 Scotland played 5, 7pts
    9 Croatia played 4, 5pts

    So its still very tight and could go any way yet ......

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    I personally dont think win or draw to Cyprus and win vs Georgia are even 50% likely for Bulgaria. To declare them beating Georgia even at home is crazy. They have a lot of factors going on there. Georgia might be more up for the game then they are.
    NOW of course you can include us in it not being great, but you say if we finish second, will it even matter. Well, imagine being them? They are done. We may well be also but have it better than they do.
    YES I admit, mathematically they are alive but surely Bulgaria will not be at South Africa man. And its in that regard that I declare them Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    I personally dont think win or draw to Cyprus and win vs Georgia are even 50% likely for Bulgaria. To declare them beating Georgia even at home is crazy. They have a lot of factors going on there. Georgia might be more up for the game then they are.
    NOW of course you can include us in it not being great, but you say if we finish second, will it even matter. Well, imagine being them? They are done. We may well be also but have it better than they do.
    YES I admit, mathematically they are alive but surely Bulgaria will not be at South Africa man. And its in that regard that I declare them Done.
    We win finish second - we just have to finish not bottom of my last post .........9th placed which Croatia is filling at the minute ......

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    Holland are the 1st team from Europe to be in South Africa ......... and they good at cricket too ...... ask england

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    Bulgaria have slipped up in 1 match that we didn't. Georgia away. That's still all that seperates us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Bulgaria have slipped up in 1 match that we didn't. Georgia away. That's still all that seperates us.

    Italy also have to go to 'fortress Georgia'
    Actually Georgia have got some decent results at home including beating the
    'mighty' Republic of Ireland in 2003

    So plenty of bananna skins for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    Italy also have to go to 'fortress Georgia'
    Actually Georgia have got some decent results at home including beating the
    'mighty' Republic of Ireland in 2003


    So plenty of bananna skins for all.
    Did I miss some bit of sarcasm, or didn't we beat Georgia 2-1 in Tblisi in March 2003, with goals from Duff and Doherty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme feet View Post
    Did I miss some bit of sarcasm, or didn't we beat Georgia 2-1 in Tblisi in March 2003, with goals from Duff and Doherty?
    lol yes, my mistake

    I was scanning through the Fifa results and it seems I misread it, I did think it a bit odd I could not remember the public outcry though but I it down to the beer fogging my memory

    They have beat Scotland though

    Actually after we, as you said beat them 2:1 they drew with Switzerland and then beat Russia 1:0, teams which I do remember we struggled against.

    So they are capable of causing the odd upset, I expect a lot of the remaining gaimes to be pretty tight but it is still difficult so see Italy not topping the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    Italy also have to go to 'fortress Georgia'
    Actually Georgia have got some decent results at home including beating the
    'mighty' Republic of Ireland in 2003

    So plenty of bananna skins for all.
    Tighten up your act.

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    So we could really do with Georgia winning a few games and getting them off last spot and into 5th in the group

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Bulgaria have slipped up in 1 match that we didn't. Georgia away. That's still all that seperates us.
    Except we have Italy at home.

    They play Italy before we do. Italy at that stage will know they will have to win that game to nail first spot, should we win in Cyprus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neville neville View Post
    So we could really do with Georgia winning a few games and getting them off last spot and into 5th in the group
    It would be perfect for us if Georgia could pass out Montenegro. If that happened I think we'd be assured of the playoffs.
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    I just thought of this scenario - apologies if already mentioned.

    Last game of the qualifiers, Italy are guaranteed 1st place and we are guaranteed second.

    If we lose to Montenagro, they finish bottom and we are guaranteed a play off.

    If we win Georgia are bottom and we lose out on a play-off!

    Would be a crazy situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumac View Post
    I just thought of this scenario - apologies if already mentioned.

    Last game of the qualifiers, Italy are guaranteed 1st place and we are guaranteed second.

    If we lose to Montenagro, they finish bottom and we are guaranteed a play off.

    If we win Georgia are bottom and we lose out on a play-off!

    Would be a crazy situation
    Maybe I'm missing something but how could losing to Montenegro in the last game result in them finishing bottom while winning would result in Georgia finishing bottom? This defies all known laws of mathematics and if that situation could occur I would agree that yes it is crazy.
    Last edited by youngirish; 08/06/2009 at 9:48 AM.

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