Andy Reid in Liam Miller out
Noel Hunt in Anthony Stokes out
Andy Reid in Liam Miller out
Lee Carsley in Darren Gibson out
Rory Delap in Alex Bruce out
Noel Hunt in Shane Long out
Daryl Murphy in Anthony Stokes out
Trap i'm not liking your squads or your starting 11's. Nobody is. But it's getting the job done...just. One Day it's going to backfire and were gonna be hammered.
If Andy Reid should start in our central midfield partnership, who should he start with? I can't think of one that looks strong. He was very good against Portsmouth, but played left midfield mostly. It is hard to fit him in
This is a cop-out of a squad. Confirms my impression that the management simply does not know about our options outside the Premiership. Givens & Brady should be more on top of their business than this. Is Stan still pulling the strings?
How can the regular Championship goalscorer Noel Hunt be left out while Long & Stokes are included?
Keogh is very lucky to be still there, especially if he's considered a midfielder. Alex Bruce is lucky too.
Andrews deserves a look.
Gibson & Miller lucky to be still there. Ideal opportunity to take a look at Delap, Garvan, O'Toole and McCann if only in training. I'm not as fussed about McCarthy.
This must be very demotivating for those left out.
Interesting article in World Soccer this month on the history of Il Traps teams and the tactics and formations that he used. I do not think it is up online but worth a look at in the newsagents.
In Trap we trust
You beat me to it on this point. Was just about to post it... It's shocking lazy on their part and whilst I'm not surprised at Givens, I am at Brady.Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
When will players be given a platform?? Another B game??? Another summer get together?? I've defended some of Trapps sqauds simply cos I figured he was waiting until this game to bring in some new blood.
I don't buy into the "wholesale changes" theory mooted by some. The first eleven practically picks itself when fit, so our calls for the inclusion of McCann, O'Toole, Hunt et al will hardly effect that.... It's his plan B I worry about. Or the lack of effort in ensuring we have the best available plan B. He doesn't go to club games?? He doesn't examine depth in critical areas (LF, CH, CM). He's alienating players (A. Reid, Carsley, J O'Brien)??
Yep, I was reserving judgment until this squad on the basis that this was the first real chance to look at anything he hadn't already looked at. This is a more disappointing squad than anything Stan or Kerr ever selected.
Its getting to be a complete nonsense now. Can't get behind this clown at all.
Talk about whinging.
Trapattoni's tactics and formation for the team are clearly defined at this stage. His squad selections reflect this.
If I was to choose a 23-Man squad in the current conidtions, it would be this:
GK (3): Given, Kiely, Murphy
DF (7): K Foley, McShane, Dunne, O'Shea, Bruce, Ward, Kilbane
MF (8): McGeady, A Reid, Fahey, McCarthy, Garvan, Carsley, Duff, S Hunt
FW (5): Keane, Doyle, N Hunt, D Foley, Burgess
If he were to make any more changes it would make a joke of things, we're in the middle of a campaign now with key games to come. Gibson, Andrews, Foley, Bruce & Folan are enough experimentation without bringing in more players unfamiliar with Trapp's way of doing things.
I don't understand why Carsley isn't there. And yes Long & Miller do strike a bum note but it is as more about the system than individuals.
Delighted to see O'Brien dropped.
Have to disagree with you there man... The bold underlined I agree with but the rest, no way. We know Trapps preffered formation so I challenge you to pick two defensive midfeilders from that squad for me please??...
Talk about whinging.
Trapattoni's tactics and formation for the team are clearly defined at this stage. His squad selections reflect this.
He's said in the past the importance of patience and retaining posession but plays Steven Hunt when Duffs unnavailable (I like Hunt BTW just highlighting Trapps inconsystency) esp when it comes to a plan B....
Is this some sort of self promotion or a joke?
Whilst I'm disappointed some new faces haven't been brought in, I have to respect Traps decision making. He obviously is looking to get a settled side. He'll probably start with a very similiar starting lineup to his last game. Mightn't be any changes until half time. So even if he had called up anyone, they probably wouldn't of seen game time anyway. I wonder if Reid and O'Brien were left out for this reason.
He is doing really well, he is scoring goals, helping the team, I think he deserves it.
haha now I have heard it all, check out the "clowns" cv.
Hence the need to play 2 holding midfielders. We don't have one player that is "strong" enough to effectively protect the back four on his own. Personally I like us to have one holding midfielder and one attacking midfielder but playing that way leaves us exposed with the players we have at our disposal.
I don't see any inconsistency here at all.
Dude, he has a settled side. I think you'll find very few people questioning Trapps first 11. It's the fact that he clearly thinks Miller and Bruce are the next best options. The fact he didn't know who Delap was on the radio a few weeks ago. The last 10 minutes against Cyprus with no subs... Eh... And all the other stuff typed by people too... He's not as committed to this Job as I'd like, and as his pay would warrant, in my opinion.
Me too... I've been searching message boards, but nothing yet.
He's not even going to the games. So obviously he's not totally committed to the job.haha now I have heard it all, check out the "clowns" cv.
Its all about to go pete tong. We simply won't get the results we need against Italy or Bulgaria, home or away, playing the rubbish football he's had us playing so far. And with the players he's selected, i think what we've seen so far is as good as it gets for us i'm afraid.
People can defend him all they like, i'm yet to find anyone to make some sense of his selections. Even Tardelli and Brady it seems.
been left out for what reason?!
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
N.Hunt starts for Reading and Long does not,but Long gets picked ahead of HuntNo way Shane Long should be ahead of Noel Hunt at present!
Brady is the one looking at players(meant to be anyway),he is having a big say in who gets picked.
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