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Thread: Republic of Ireland V Serbia - Saturday, 24th May 2008 - Friendly

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Watched a bit of it again there (sky plus). It ****es me off that the sky commentators cant even pronounce players names. Who is Andy Key-hoo. Reminds me of Mark Kin Sella. Idiots
    What about Paddy Roch A, Kevin More Ann!

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    Or Gary Dock erty!
    "I have two ambitions in life: one is to drink every pub dry, the other is to sleep with every woman on earth." (The late Oliver Reed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    What about Paddy Roch A, Kevin More Ann!
    Cant understand why someone has'nt pointed it out to them that they are making a fools themselves. Jesus if you can say "crow," you can say "Keogh".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post

    Cant understand why someone has'nt pointed it out to them that they are making a fools themselves. Jesus if you can say "crow," you can say "Keogh".
    All it takes is the slightest bit of research on the commentators part... George Hamilton is good at that when pronouncing foreign names
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Is Kiely, pronounced Keely or Kily, I think its Keely myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    There was a touch of the Jack Charlton's to yesterdays game. Large lads, long balls to the wings and a set piece that worked. Maybe Trap is a closet JC fan.
    Wow, why do people keep posting things that are so blatantly wrong. I don't mean about the long balls, but ''large lads''? The team is tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Wow, why do people keep posting things that are so blatantly wrong. I don't mean about the long balls, but ''large lads''? The team is tiny.
    I was talking about the introduction of Delaney and the set piece that led to the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Watched a bit of it again there (sky plus). It ****es me off that the sky commentators cant even pronounce players names. Who is Andy Key-hoo. Reminds me of Mark Kin Sella. Idiots
    Send them a complaint or cancel your subscription. If everyone who was annoyed by their lack of professionalism did that they wouldn't be long correcting it.

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    Game

    Is was a snoozefest of a game. Crowd were flat and players looked a bit disinterested. I don't think end of season friendlies are a good idea, once the premiership/league one finishes the players have mentally switched off and are thinking about the beach.

    Massive hole in defence for Serbias goal, you could have driven a bus through it. McShane has lost a ball of confidence and looks very shakey. John O'Shea looks to be the only long term option to go in beside Dunne.

    Miller looks like he will never amount to more than an average second division player. Nice to see duff back, he needs more service. Midfield creativity was 0 and the need to get Stephen Ireland back in there is massive. Robbie Keane was chasing shadows again but worked hard. Doyle was useful, he's seriously good in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    I was talking about the introduction of Delaney and the set piece that led to the goal.

    Yep , i thought Charltonesque when we scored. For some reason it reminded me of that goal from the long throw i think against England volleyed into the back of the net..

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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    Yep , i thought Charltonesque when we scored. For some reason it reminded me of that goal from the long throw i think against England volleyed into the back of the net..
    Ronnie Whelan v Soviet Union per chance ?
    "Football is a game you play with your brain".

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    Quote Originally Posted by stojkovic View Post
    Ronnie Whelan v Soviet Union per chance ?
    thats the bad boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomkerry View Post
    Watched a bit of it again there (sky plus). It ****es me off that the sky commentators cant even pronounce players names. Who is Andy Key-hoo. Reminds me of Mark Kin Sella. Idiots
    What's worse is that Ronnie Whelan was at it too. You can forgive the English commentators (I suppose) but for someone born and bred in Dublin that's shameful.
    Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

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    I thought Delaney had a decent game. There were shades of Charlton alright - especially early on with some of the tackles that were going in ("Put 'em under pressure!") - but of course there is a massive gulf between this set of players and the ones Jack had at his disposal. Their goal was down to a lack of communication: it's understandable given some of the players haven't played that much together. That shot aside, I can't remember Kiely having too much to do so the defence must have done something right for the other 89 minutes and 50 seconds!

    For me, what was more concerning was how little we created going forward. Keane's shot off the line came from a deflected cross and we didn't do anything else really until Keogh's goal. We need to find ways to get the midfield players to link up better with the front men and the front men need to work harder to keep the ball when it comes up to them.

    On a slightly different note, I was a bit disappointed with Duff's diving - the ref correctly told him to get up once in the second half but there were two or three other times where he bought us cheap freekicks which is alright against an inexperienced ref. We'll have better refs in the qualifiers though who might well see through that - we can't afford to be losing possession / getting players booked cheaply. His fitness levels look good - he was very sharp; he just needs to stay on his feet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    Did we really play that many long balls? Was at the game and it seemed like the focus was keeping the ball even if it meant going back to one of the centre backs or Kiely. Looked nothing like a JC performance to me (although I might stand corrected).
    I thought we played more long balls than I've seen from us in years. Not once did Kiely play it short, Dunne hardly ever. I actually thought this was the single most notable feature of our play. Our ball retention is poor at the best of times in the last few years (a far cry from WC 2002) but last night was worse than ever and I can't remember Miller once showing to take the ball from defence. The back 4 tried to get it moving at times and each time it ended going back to Kiely.

    Like Billsthoughts' Spanish mate said after the last game, it wasn't even football we were playing at times. Is passing and moving really that difficult? In the past 12 months I think only Potter and Reid have done the basics in any way well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I thought we played more long balls than I've seen from us in years.
    So Brady doesnt practise what he preaches.
    "Football is a game you play with your brain".

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    Quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    Did we really play that many long balls? Was at the game and it seemed like the focus was keeping the ball even if it meant going back to one of the centre backs or Kiely. Looked nothing like a JC performance to me (although I might stand corrected).
    i thought we actually wernt keeping the ball, everytime it went back to keily he hoofed it up field. and yes there was alot of long ball played, especially into the corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beepbeep View Post
    i thought we actually wernt keeping the ball, everytime it went back to keily he hoofed it up field. and yes there was alot of long ball played, especially into the corners.
    Dunne frustrated the life outta me coz he lumped it forward even when Whelan showed for the ball. However, I don't think it was a long ball performance in the same manner of Charlton's sides. There were a lot of occasions when the ball went sideways or back, just to retain it.

    Found a lot of long balls came after a passage of passing that led someone up a blind alley with no other option but to punt it long. I don't reckon it was by design and I think it's something that will be weeded out with better passing and better movement as Trapattoni puts his stamp on things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    Dunne frustrated the life outta me coz he lumped it forward even when Whelan showed for the ball. However, I don't think it was a long ball performance in the same manner of Charlton's sides. There were a lot of occasions when the ball went sideways or back, just to retain it.

    Found a lot of long balls came after a passage of passing that led someone up a blind alley with no other option but to punt it long. I don't reckon it was by design and I think it's something that will be weeded out with better passing and better movement as Trapattoni puts his stamp on things.
    Lumping it forward to a Premiership player probaly feels a lot safer than passing to a Championship midfield, rightly or wrongly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    Lumping it forward to a Premiership player probaly feels a lot safer than passing to a Championship midfield, rightly or wrongly.
    Duff, Hunt, Whelan and Miller are all Premiership players...but I know what you mean.

    Surely though a five-ten yard pass can't be that hard to execute for a professional footballer, nor can the ability to know where you're going to play your next pass once you receive the ball. It also shouldn't be rocket science to move into a position where the person on the ball can find you.

    Launching a long ball to Keane or Doyle is useless in the main because neither of them are good enough at what made, say, Quinn the player he was.

    It's something that will have to be coached but these players should be good enough to play a better brand of football than just hit and hope to Keane and Doyle.

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