Earlier you implied that Liverpool (who won the competition) were an also ran team. Rangers knocked out Porto (a team who won the competition previously and went on to win a domestic double that season I believe) and Celtic have knocked out some decent teams en route to the second stage. Whilst it's not particularly difficult for one of the teams thart perenially qualify for the competition from the top European leagues to get to the knockout stage, it takes a decent team from the lower echelon of leagues in Europe to do so consistently (which Scottish teams seem to be getting better at).Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Whatever year they got to the second round. Irrelevant what year they done this. As you well know. Fact is they didnt set the world on fire when they did.
Fact is qualifying from group stage of champions league does not a great club make.
All of this is going off topic a bit though. All I'm really trying to say is that whilst the Scottish league is quite poor IMO, the achievement of Celtic and Rangers getting past the group stages of Europe shouldn't be knocked. They've always gone out to teams of vastly superior quality to them (and to most of the teams in the EPL). Besides, if they weren't getting through the group stages you'd probably be saying that you'd only be impressed if they were getting out of them.
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No I simply pointed out that they havent challenged for the Premiership in a long time. Yet they have got to two finals of Champions League and won one of them. The implication being its hard to do well in the premiership even given Liverpools resources. People were implying that Celtic are a cut above the average Premiership teams because they have qualified out of the group stages of Champions League. I doubt they would come anywhere near the Champions League spot if they were competing in the Premiership. At the end of the day champions league is a knockout tournament.
Aiden's probably saving himself for a Spanish league club (maybe you can confirm this BigmanCas).
Personally don't think that moving to a Premiership club would be a good move for Aiden as the Premiership has little room for players that like to play as Aiden does. Only the top teams can afford to have a player of McGeady's type in the team and Aiden's not good enough for these teams.
One example. Bolton had a Swedish player at the start of the season called Christian Wilhelmsson. Wilhelmsson would be a very similar player to McGeady but he never got his game for Boton. He moved to Deportivo La Coruna during the transfer window and he's really done well down in Spain. I watched him play against Barcelona at the weekend and he was one if not the best player on the park.
Moral of the story is that it's probably better for McGeady to stay put as he's a first team player with Celtic rather than moving to a club like Bolton that won't give him a game. If he moves to the Premiership I think he'll turn into a reserve team player as I don't think he has enough in his game to establish himself as a top Premiership player.
You know nothing!! Bill go away!!Aiden's probably saving himself for a Spanish league club (maybe you can confirm this BigmanCas
Personally don't think that moving to a Premiership club would be a good move for Aiden as the Premiership has little room for players that like to play as Aiden does. Only the top teams can afford to have a player of McGeady's type in the team and Aiden's not good enough for these teams.
One example. Bolton had a Swedish player at the start of the season called Christian Wilhelmsson. Wilhelmsson would be a very similar player to McGeady but he never got his game for Boton. He moved to Deportivo La Coruna during the transfer window and he's really done well down in Spain. I watched him play against Barcelona at the weekend and he was one if not the best player on the park.
Moral of the story is that it's probably better for McGeady to stay put as he's a first team player with Celtic rather than moving to a club like Bolton that won't give him a game. If he moves to the Premiership I think he'll turn into a reserve team player as I don't think he has enough in his game to establish himself as a top Premiership player.
But you said in Feb of this year, prior to the Barcelona games and I quote
Just on the point of how good or bad Celtic are, 5 or 6 years ago I'd have said they were a top 6 EPL team under O'Neill. Now, despite doing better in Europe (only marginally - they still win at home lose away all the time) I honestly think they'd only just about stay in the EPL, their considerable home advantage notwithsanding. They are carrying several sub standard players IMHO, Hesselink, Cauldwell and a few others esp. in central midfield.
I think Scott Brown and Hartley would do well in the EPL. I agree that Donati would probably struggle, and I wouldn't argue with your assessment of Hesselink and Caldwell.
Out of Celtic's team, here are the players I think would do well in the Premiership:
--------------Boruc------
Hinkel---O'Dea?----McManus---Naylor?
Naka---Brown---Hartley---McGeady
------MacDonald----New Striker---
Add a new striker (target man?), and another central defender plus a left back and you've got a top ten Premiership team at worst, at best they'd be competing for UEFA Cup spots.
The SPL is rated joint 6th in European performances this year (that also includes the usual Uefa first round knock out for the SFA Cup runners up).
An improvement from last year when the EPL was rated the 9th strongest league.
I thought McGeady played really well against Rangers. Most of the things he tried came off. Good to see Duff, Keane, Reid, Given and Carr were in the crowd too to see McGeady at his best.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 30/04/2008 at 11:27 AM.
Don't know where this is from, robbed from forum.football365.comSunderland, Newcastle vie for McGeady
April 30, 2008
Sunderland manager Roy Keane and Newcastle United counterpart Kevin Keegan are leading the race for Celtic and Republic of Ireland star Aiden McGeady, according to reports.
McGeady has enjoyed an exceptional season, lifting both the outright and Young Player of the Year awards at the Scottish Footballers’ Association’s annual awards ceremony last week.
The 22-year-old’s level of form has seen him linked with a move to the Barclays Premier League, and both Sunderland and Newcastle are keen to bring him to the north-east.
Both clubs could be attractive to McGeady, given that he would not have to travel too far from his family in Glasgow.
Reports in the United Kingdom on Wednesday suggest that an offer of £10m could be enough to prise him away from Parkhead before the start of next season.
I dont think Celtic would turn down a bid of £10 Million for him.
Id love to see him play in the premiership every week, I think Sunderland would be a good move for him.
Guaranteed starter, and a manager who would have faith in his abilities, as well as keeping him in line.
makes little sense for either newcastle or sunderland to buy him, neither of them need a left winger. newcastle have duff and nzogbia. sunderland spend a fortune on richardson last summer. its crap based on keegan living in glasgow (he didnt go to any celtic games during that time) and keane being irish. i can see him ending up at spurs if they dont get capel.
While I would agree that Newcastle seems a bit unlikely, beyond Richardson and Edwards, Sunderland don't have much wing cover.
Currently Murphy is their cover in that position, and while he's done well enough, I'd say McGeady is leaps and bounds ahead of him overall and would thus be a smart signing for them.
He will stay at Celtic for another season and will then move to a top four premiership club. Mark my words!!!!!
You've got to be kidding me with these 3. Naylor would be by far the worst left back in the premiership - he's much worse than Kilbane.
Hartley doesn't have a clue in central midfield, he'd be completely over ran and outplayed by every midfield in England and as for MacDonald, i'd rate David Connolly a much higher quality player than him and he's the 7th best striker at Sunderland.
Please note folks. When Trapp was asked which players he likes in the current squad - He smiled and said 'Mc Geady'...'I fancy Mc Geady as a footballer... Good to see a man with a bit of sense. Bill maybe you might wake up and take some notice (albeit your not the only one)!!
I fancy him as a footballer as well.
Just dont think he has EVER done it for Ireland.
eh, have a look at celtics recent record in euro competition against english teams and come back to us if you stand by that claim
also, how many of the english teams in the uefa cup got to the final this year and how many scottish?
usual anti SPL V EPL propaganda
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