Shannon Airport Discussion

**pete** · 27/10/2007, 11:27 AM

I believe they have discovered no proof civil servant told Dempsey. Bad week for Dempsey with Driving licence issues...

Good luck to Aer Lingus proving they told the Dept of Transport regulator (is there not a separate body for that or does that just decide airport prices?) & not the Dept of Transport Shareholder. TBH don't know what the punishment would be...

**CollegeTillIDie** · 27/10/2007, 11:32 AM

The obvious solution to all of this issue which would have saved Aer Lingus face etc and made the flights viable would have been to begin the flights which normally go from Cork to Heathrow in Shannon stop off in Cork and carry on to Heathrow... that way they are using THE CORK SLOTS for Heathrow to get the punters from the mid-West. Aer Lingus get their Belfast hub and save a sh1t load of negative publicity. I think it could work but then I am only a punter.

**OneRedArmy** · 30/10/2007, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

The obvious solution to all of this issue which would have saved Aer Lingus face etc and made the flights viable would have been to begin the flights which normally go from Cork to Heathrow in Shannon stop off in Cork and carry on to Heathrow... that way they are using THE CORK SLOTS for Heathrow to get the punters from the mid-West. Aer Lingus get their Belfast hub and save a sh1t load of negative publicity. I think it could work but then I am only a punter.

Did you invent the Shannon stopover in a former life?

Doubling the number of take-offs and landings reduces the useful life of the aircraft by more than a half, not to mention other cost implications.

Thankfully the private sector doesn't make political compromise decisions such as that.

**gufct** · 30/10/2007, 10:28 AM

It just shows the general ignorance of people outside the area ie South west munster as far as Donegal.

**OneRedArmy** · 30/10/2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by gufct

It just shows the general ignorance of people outside the area ie South west munster as far as Donegal.

Say what now?

**Dotsy** · 01/11/2007, 8:43 AM

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Doubling the number of take-offs and landings reduces the useful life of the aircraft by more than a half, not to mention other cost implications.

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It doesn't effect the useful life to any great extent. It does mean the aircraft, especially the engines (which are the most expensive part of the aircraft to look after) require more frequent maintenance visits which is very costly.

**OneRedArmy** · 01/11/2007, 8:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dotsy

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Doubling the number of take-offs and landings reduces the useful life of the aircraft by more than a half, not to mention other cost implications.

It doesn't effect the useful life to any great extent. It does mean the aircraft, especially the engines (which are the most expensive part of the aircraft to look after) require more frequent maintenance visits which is very costly.

I'd always understood that an airframe's life is measured in terms of landings and take-offs and pressurization and depressurisations (as well as hours flown). Doubling these reduces this significant.

But then I'm no engineer!

**pete** · 01/11/2007, 1:20 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Did you invent the Shannon stopover in a former life?

Would it be called the Cork Stopover?

I predict any bad news in the West for the forseeable future will be blamed on the lack of Shannon-Heathrow route including company closures & pay freezes...

**Dotsy** · 02/11/2007, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

I'd always understood that an airframe's life is measured in terms of landings and take-offs and pressurization and depressurisations (as well as hours flown). Doubling these reduces this significant.

But then I'm no engineer!

Not really with the newer aircraft built over the last twenty to twenty five years. The mandated maintenance programs have been constantly revised to take account of things like effects of pressurisation, corrosion etc. In effect it means that the older the aircraft the more expensive it is to maintain.

Most aircraft get retired because of economic reasons (more expensive to maintain, less fuel efficient etc) and because of stricter emission and noise regulations

I am not an engineer either but do work in the business.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 02/11/2007, 12:49 PM

Just announced on lunchtime news that 51 Aer Lingus jobs are to go at Shannon.

They're apparently seeking redundancys. I didn't catch the whole item.