Rugby World Cup

**RogerMilla** · 04/10/2007, 2:26 PM

i think scotland could win....

**OneRedArmy** · 04/10/2007, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Scotland have no chance, they're woeful. The others have a small chance, if France were playing anyone else, I'd say they had an even chance but against the All Blacks in Wales, it's unlikely.

I'd say Scotland have a better chance than England. But similarly, I have a chance of being hit by lightning, pulling Angelina Jolie and winning the lottery all in the one day.

Similar odds.

**shakermaker1982** · 04/10/2007, 7:02 PM

I'll be rooting on the Scots and hope they do it. Argentina are obviously favourites but if Scotland keep the penalty count against them low and make sure they take any chances that comes their way then it could be close. I'm sure the Scots have been giving their full back plenty of high balls in anticipation of the aerial bombardment that is due to come his way this Sunday.....

New Zealand should beat France in style but they haven't faced a challenge yet and could be caught cold. Very strange selections from Laporte if I'm being honest though - looks like another team will be doing a lot of kicking this weekend.....

I hope Australia pulverise England as the boks did a few weeks ago. The Aussies attacking play should cut them to shreds. I'll also be rooting for Fiji to pull off another shock, they need a good start if they are to have any chance of suppressing the boks.

**OneRedArmy** · 04/10/2007, 10:33 PM

A few Kiwi friends of mine still talk about how much they paid touts for World Cup final tickets before they played France in the semis in 1999 so heavily were they favoured.......

France can turn it on at a moments notice, wouldn't write them off.

Arguably AB's peaked about the same time as Ireland based on their mediocre Tri-Nations form.

**onceahoop** · 04/10/2007, 11:19 PM

All Blacks, Boks, Argentina and Australia for me.

**bennocelt** · 05/10/2007, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Have you read any of whats gone before or did you just choose to ignore it?

I've followed the Irish rugby team for 20 years and I can tell you whats on the mind of most genuine rugby fans this morning, yesterday evening and indeed over the last few weeks wasn't the bloody anthem.

If you have a problem with the anthem, suggest you bring it up with your club, who will raise it at provincial council and onwards to the IRFU.......

yeah but if they are represent ireland, the least you could expect is them to play the national anthem

but you are right........im not into rugby at all, so i dont really care about it too much, im a football man 100%

**Real ale Madrid** · 05/10/2007, 8:40 AM

Argentina have hit form bang on time for this tournament - id be amazed if Scotland got within 15 points of them let alone turn them over. All this talk about Scotland "taking thier chances" is bluff - they are useless.

Unfortunately i suspect South africa are going to thrash Fiji who have already played thier final. Any remote chance Fiji had is gone now that Nicky Little is out injured.

Australia should again have far too much for England - England haven't done much but with Wilkinson in the team could make it a competitive enough game. Good game for the Aussie -nothing like playing against England to keep them focused.

New Zealand can only beat themselves at this stage - they have shown beyond doubt that they are better than France. France are going to try and pin the All Blacks in thier own half as much as possible and hope they can front up as best they can. A risky strategy - any loose kicks could be disasterous - i think they would be better off playing as open as possible and attack from everywhere but to be honest - New Zealand are so powerful it should make no difference.

SA v Arg, NZ v Aus in semis

**IsMiseSean** · 05/10/2007, 8:53 AM

I'll be cheering on france tomorrow night, I'd love to see them win the whole thing! They are a great entertaning team and unprecditable too.
Argentina should beat Scotland but it's the first time they've been favourites so they could bottle it
South Africa and Fiji is a no contest, South Africa will win easily
Australia and England I reckon will be tight, but quality should prevail by the end, Australia just...

**OneRedArmy** · 05/10/2007, 9:08 AM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

yeah but if they are represent ireland, the least you could expect is them to play the national anthem

They aren't. They are representing the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Originally Posted by bennocelt

but you are right........im not into rugby at all, so i dont really care about it too much, im a football man 100%

Wrong thread for you perhaps?

**OneRedArmy** · 05/10/2007, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

New Zealand can only beat themselves at this stage

Absolutely. But they've managed to beat themselves in the last 4 World Cups.

The weight of national expectation is huge.

**Dodge** · 05/10/2007, 9:16 AM

Originally Posted by JGKyne

Argentina should beat Scotland but it's the first time they've been favourites so they could bottle it

They were favourites v Ireland....

**ifk101** · 05/10/2007, 9:27 AM

I can't see Argentina losing to Scotland. All Argentina need to do is not give away penalties within kicking range because the Scots aren't going to score a try. I think Argentina will win by 14+ points and I'll be betting on this.

But generally speaking I haven't been impressed by any of the Six Nations at all this World Cup so I expect to see the Tri-Nations and Argentina in the semis.

**IsMiseSean** · 05/10/2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

They were favourites v Ireland....

Slight favourites, alot of pundits/fans thought Ireland would still win the game but not get the required bonus point.
They are clear favourites for this game, so they could underestimate scotland

I've €40 riding on the Argies to reach the final

**drinkfeckarse** · 05/10/2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by ifk101

I can't see Argentina losing to Scotland. All Argentina need to do is not give away penalties within kicking range because the Scots aren't going to score a try. I think Argentina will win by 14+ points and I'll be betting on this.

I agree. Not giving away silly penalties is vital as Paterson is a fantastic kicker.

**OneRedArmy** · 05/10/2007, 12:42 PM

I think I might do a 4 way Southern Hemisphere accumulator. No such thing as a safe bet but any of the 3 Northern Hemisphere teams (or Fiji) winning would be a surprise.

I'm firewalled from gambling sites at work, anyone know what accumulated odds would be for the above?

**Soko** · 05/10/2007, 1:12 PM

4/7 off the top of my head

**OneRedArmy** · 05/10/2007, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Soko

4/7 off the top of my head

Other way around surely? Was expecting 7/4-2/1?

**Dodge** · 05/10/2007, 1:38 PM

Using paddypower odds; Aus (1/6), NZ (1/6), SA (1/200), Arg (1/6 ) A €10 accumulator will give you €15.96 back

**OneRedArmy** · 05/10/2007, 1:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Using paddypower odds; Aus (1/6), NZ (1/6), SA (1/200), Arg (1/6 ) A �10 accumulator will give you �15.96 back

Those are fierce bad odds.

Better having a punt on France methinks....

**pete** · 05/10/2007, 3:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Using paddypower odds; Aus (1/6), NZ (1/6), SA (1/200), Arg (1/6 ) A �10 accumulator will give you �15.96 back

On GameBookers its Aus (2/9), NZ (2/11), SA (1/33) & Arg (2/11), A �10 accumulator will give you �17.60 back.

Very short odds on NZ as 8/11 to win when they probably have to beat France, Australia & South Africa.

I still have Australia e/w to win but I would make SA favourites given their route & the final. 11/4 to win not bad.

Argentina are 16/1 to win outright so e/w would be reasonable.