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    What about Milutinovic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donadoni View Post
    A very premature and very optimistic thread, my two nominees for Staunton's successor, assuming they could just walk out of their current contracts

    Number one; Roy Hodgson. If Finland don't manage to qualify could he be tempted to Dublin? There's a good profile on uefa, here's the link.

    http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...c=1/index.html

    Number two; Bora Milutinovic. Currently coaching Jamaica, I think. Probably the most adaptable international coach of all time, no language problems. And has had success with 'unfancied' teams.

    Thoughts?
    You have got to be joking?! Let me just say I support Stan. Always have, but if he goes it has to be a top manager who replaces him.

    Stan is on the second rung in terms of managerial candidates. I'd put him similar to McCarthy,Kerr, Aldridge,Robson,Mclaren,Toshack,O'Leary.....Hodgso n.....!
    There is absolutely NO POINT in even suggesting anyone from the same level if Stan goes....

    It has to be a manager from the top rung or it will not work. Its a no-brainer. The media and so called fans will mutilate anyone who is not top-brass... Maybe Souness...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig7042 View Post
    You have got to be joking?! Let me just say I support Stan. Always have, but if he goes it has to be a top manager who replaces him.

    Stan is on the second rung in terms of managerial candidates. I'd put him similar to McCarthy,Kerr, Aldridge,Robson,Mclaren,Toshack,O'Leary.....Hodgso n.....!
    There is absolutely NO POINT in even suggesting anyone from the same level if Stan goes....

    It has to be a manager from the top rung or it will not work. Its a no-brainer. The media and so called fans will mutilate anyone who is not top-brass... Maybe Souness...?
    surely a wind up?? What has Souness done to elevate his status to "the top rung"? Bizarre.
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    After the Cyprus game he should have been axed and in all my years watching Ireland I've never felt so disgusted. I felt no pain in the draw and defeat recently as I'm beyond it with clueless in charge.
    With a squad made up of players like Green, McShocking and Kilbad we are going places. Down the gutter.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donadoni View Post
    A very premature and very optimistic thread, my two nominees for Staunton's successor, assuming they could just walk out of their current contracts

    Number one; Roy Hodgson. If Finland don't manage to qualify could he be tempted to Dublin? There's a good profile on uefa, here's the link.

    http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...c=1/index.html

    Number two; Bora Milutinovic. Currently coaching Jamaica, I think. Probably the most adaptable international coach of all time, no language problems. And has had success with 'unfancied' teams.

    Thoughts?
    Agree 100% about Hodgson. He's an excellent coach and would be my number 1 choice too. I also think he would jump at the opportunity to manage Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie View Post
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    What about Milutinovic?
    5 or 10 years ago maybe, but not now.

    Remember him with Mexico in WC'86.

    Hiddink would be my (affordable) choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig7042 View Post
    You have got to be joking?! Let me just say I support Stan. Always have, but if he goes it has to be a top manager who replaces him.

    Stan is on the second rung in terms of managerial candidates. I'd put him similar to McCarthy,Kerr, Aldridge,Robson,Mclaren,Toshack,O'Leary.....Hodgso n.....!
    There is absolutely NO POINT in even suggesting anyone from the same level if Stan goes....

    It has to be a manager from the top rung or it will not work. Its a no-brainer. The media and so called fans will mutilate anyone who is not top-brass... Maybe Souness...?
    WUM?? Stan in same bracket as McCarthy? Souness in higher bracket than McCarthy? You must be having a laugh
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    Multinovic has been ****e for Jamaica, they've been doing horrible. They went on a tour of the middle east and got crushed in each game (Caribbean Cup too). I think their problem might be that the have players like Michael Johnson, Darren Moore, Trevor Benjamin, Ricardo Fuller, Claude Davis. Luton Shelton, Darren Byfield, etc., etc., etc., in England and I don't think any of them are playing. Even then that is partly the coaches responsibility to get those players in
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    I would go for Mourhinho. Its not like he needs the money? It would be handy two years for him getting us to the WC and then he can go back to England and manage a proper team. Its not like he likes good footballers anyway so our lack of same wont bother him. He wont be afraid to stand up to underperforming senior players / FAI. His ego might like the idea of turning Ireland around and doing well at the WC finals. Jose is made to manage Ireland!

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    Someone World Class from Delaney.... McAteer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Someone World Class from Delaney.... McAteer.
    The really sad thing is , not even this scenario would surprise me.BTW , Stan on the second rung???? bloody short ladder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I woudl prefer Leo Beenhakker in there but yeah I like your line of thinking to be honest. We need someone who is an expert a international football and who speaks English.

    yeah likewise, Leo and Roy or Bora, thats not a bad trio of options

    i was in China when Bora was working his magic, he was like a god out there, but he did a lot of good work in China and the people were very grateful for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billsthoughts View Post
    I would go for Mourhinho. Its not like he needs the money? It would be handy two years for him getting us to the WC and then he can go back to England and manage a proper team. Its not like he likes good footballers anyway so our lack of same wont bother him. He wont be afraid to stand up to underperforming senior players / FAI. His ego might like the idea of turning Ireland around and doing well at the WC finals. Jose is made to manage Ireland!
    I actually love that about our country .. our sense of our own importance. Similar to the debate about Hiddink or O'Neill last time round.

    Mourhinho and Ireland .. hehe .. good one.

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    it was a wee bit tongue in cheek....

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser View Post
    I actually love that about our country .. our sense of our own importance. Similar to the debate about Hiddink or O'Neill last time round.

    Mourhinho and Ireland .. hehe .. good one.

    And thats one thing I hate about Ireland; our sense of not believing that we belong up there. It really ****s me off no end. You don't see the Russians, Greeks or Poles having that kind of attitude when they get top class managers. FFS Trinidad and Tobago had a world class manager at the last world cup.

    Ireland are not Brazil or Italy. What we are though is a country that should be competing for qualification for tournaments, in the same way Poland and Russia and all the other second/third tier teams do.

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    Who was the German manager of Greece when they won the Euro's? Was that Beenhakker? I've the bloody memory of a goldfish....
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    I'm surely only repeating the obvious when I say the salary for managing the Irish senior team isn't unattractive by international football standards. Sure it isn't what the English pay for all the bull that goes with managing their team but the chap who's Czech side had no difficulty dispatching us a couple of weeks back is reputedly on half of what Stan gets. Lawrie Sanchez was on a third of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craig7042 View Post

    Stan is on the second rung in terms of managerial candidates. I'd put him similar to McCarthy,Kerr, Aldridge,Robson,Mclaren,Toshack,O'Leary.....Hodgso n.....!
    On what criteria do you base that statement?

    Toshack won the Spanish league.

    Hodgson qualified the Swiss for an World Cup and a European Championships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungle View Post
    And thats one thing I hate about Ireland; our sense of not believing that we belong up there. It really ****s me off no end. You don't see the Russians, Greeks or Poles having that kind of attitude when they get top class managers. FFS Trinidad and Tobago had a world class manager at the last world cup.

    Ireland are not Brazil or Italy. What we are though is a country that should be competing for qualification for tournaments, in the same way Poland and Russia and all the other second/third tier teams do.
    Didn't think I had to spell it out but there was no way in hell that Martin O'Neill was going to take the Irish job at this stage of his career after the success at Celtic .. and there was no way that Hiddink was going to take the Irish job either. Same as Roy Keane is not going to take the Irish job anytime soon.

    So in that case, the only viable candidates are ex players, has-been ex-English club managers, a mercenary type (e.g. the world class manager Trinidad manager .. Troussier .. Osim, Baric, Hodgson etc) or some young manager getting his first job a la Stan.

    Stating the obvious of course. Not putting us down, but trying to be realistic. Agree that we should be looking for a world class candidate from the realistic choices available to us.

    anyway, fairly pointless debate as Stan is going to be manager at the end of this campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser View Post
    a mercenary type (e.g. the world class manager Trinidad manager .. Troussier .. Osim, Baric, Hodgson etc) or some young manager getting his first job a la Stan.
    Troussier is a poor manager. He should have done better with Japan in 2002, and hasn't done much since.

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