foot.ie on sunderland forum

**eirebhoy** · 11/05/2007, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by youngirish

I've no problem with Irish people watching Sunderland to see how the Irish players are doing. Indeed I've been known to do the same at Reading a few times but following Keane around like flies on sh*te is embarrassing. What does he have to do with our beloved boys in green anymore? Nothing.

He's one of the most famous living men to come from this country. When Paul le Guen joined Rangers a lot of people in France kept track of Rangers and their results would also be on the news bulletins. Now multiply that interest by 100 for Roy Keane in this country.

**Stuttgart88** · 11/05/2007, 11:27 AM

Of course the interest is understandable, but for me the 11 goals scored by young Irish players in The Championship on Sunday was at least worth a sentence in the papers.

I'd be inclined to guess that it's actually a record number of goals scored by the Irish in England on any given day.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 11/05/2007, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

Yes why would people want to go and see their countrymen play.

Which they do every week in Ireland...

**OwlsFan** · 11/05/2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by kingdom hoop

To be fair the fact that Charlie Chawke owns the bar and a stake in Sunderland is a good explanation. Not justification mind.

As far as I am concerned Charlie Chawke doesn't have a leg to stand on.

(Tasteless joke I know. Apologies).

**cavan_fan** · 11/05/2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Which they do every week in Ireland...

Yes why watch the Olympics when you can watch the Irish Athletics championships.

**Soper** · 11/05/2007, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

Yes why watch the Olympics when you can watch the Irish Athletics championships.

That's a silly post isn't it.

**gustavo** · 11/05/2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

Yes why watch the Olympics when you can watch the Irish Athletics championships.

Very stranged and flawed analogy there

**Jerry The Saint** · 11/05/2007, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by gustavo

Very stranged and flawed analogy there

I think he might have meant: why watch the Irish Athletics Championships when you could watch the US Athletics Championships instead or something like that

Not sure where the Olympics comes into it - why would they hold the Irish championships at the same time

**lionelhutz** · 11/05/2007, 2:51 PM

I agree totally with cavan fan. Its pathetic that people get worked up about a flag hanging from a pub - so buttons. Each to their own. If ye don't like the fcukin flag, dont go to the pub.

If i owned a bar in Dublin and also had a stake in Liverpool or whoever, id have no hesitations about trying to advertise that team....which is exactly what chawke seems to be doing. Lads, if a stupid flag is all ye have to worry about in life, ye're doin well

**eirebhoy** · 11/05/2007, 3:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

I think he might have meant: why watch the Irish Athletics Championships when you could watch the US Athletics Championships instead or something like that

Not sure where the Olympics comes into it - why would they hold the Irish championships at the same time

I understand what cavan_fan means. I enjoyed seeing Robbie Keane come off the bench last night and take control of the game, on a pitch with players of all nationalities, just because he's Irish. I can only imagine how I'd feel if a team full of Irish, with Roy Keane as manager, was dominating the premiership.

To me it would be the equivalent of an Irish team playing in the Champions league. I've very little affection with the League of Ireland, just the country of Ireland.

**Stuttgart88** · 11/05/2007, 3:23 PM

Which is a perfectly reasonable stance to take.

**Erstwhile B�z** · 13/05/2007, 1:58 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I've very little affection with the League of Ireland, just the country of Ireland.

What country of Ireland? Tell me how the "country of Ireland" is represented on the international soccer scene and how you support it and how it's great and how, provingyourselfasanIrishman, it beats going to Irish matches. Go on, big bHoy.

**eirebhoy** · 13/05/2007, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by Erstwhile B�z

What country of Ireland? Tell me how the "country of Ireland" is represented on the international soccer scene and how you support it and how it's great and how, provingyourselfasanIrishman, it beats going to Irish matches. Go on, big bHoy.

It's in my heart, not my head, therefore I can't explain it.

**paul_oshea** · 14/05/2007, 10:18 AM

great response EB. great response.

**GavinZac** · 14/05/2007, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I can only imagine how I'd feel if a team full of Irish, with Roy Keane as manager, was dominating the premiership.

To me it would be the equivalent of an Irish team playing in the Champions league.

For crying out loud...

**geysir** · 14/05/2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I understand what cavan_fan means. I enjoyed seeing Robbie Keane come off the bench last night and take control of the game, on a pitch with players of all nationalities, just because he's Irish. I can only imagine how I'd feel if a team full of Irish, with Roy Keane as manager, was dominating the premiership.

To me it would be the equivalent of an Irish team playing in the Champions league. I've very little affection with the League of Ireland, just the country of Ireland.

For me in that Spurs game, I only turned up the volume when Robbie came on as a sub. That's about the be all and the end all of my connection to the club that he plays for.
Some valid arguments have been made pointing out the contradictions in the logic of choosing to support Sunderland.
Well wishing, even to the excitable extent

, for Irish players in the Sunderland set up is a world away from the type of fans that swallow the hype and become supporters of a certain kind out of which Zinedine would hope some will stay when the sands shift.
As long as I can remember the English league has been a major focus for Irish football fans. No big deal but with one of the many exceptions being where it's part of an inferiority complex.

**Torn-Ado** · 14/05/2007, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by kingdom hoop

You'd want to go to the cinema for your stag?? Please don't invite me!

More seriously, Newcastle is a very popular destination for such escapades so with all the brouhaha over Sunderland it's not surprising a group of lads would go to the Stadium of Light to catch a bit of footie before the trip to the cinema, then back to the hotel for tea and crumpets and exalting the groom's pre-marriage chastity.

The sarcasm in this place never fails to make me smile.

My point was that if the place hasn't even got a cinema, how good can it be.

My info on this piece of useless information comes from a book published two years ago stating the top 50 worst cities in Britain. Sunderland came third and not that it matters, Luton came first

**kingdom hoop** · 14/05/2007, 1:25 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

The sarcasm in this place never fails to make me smile.

Glad to be of service

I haven't a clue about football so adding a touch of sarcasm is all I'm good for. (Though that's more of a tongue in cheek remark)

**Sligo Hornet** · 14/05/2007, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

The sarcasm in this place never fails to make me smile.

My point was that if the place hasn't even got a cinema, how good can it be.

My info on this piece of useless information comes from a book published two years ago stating the top 50 worst cities in Britain. Sunderland came third and not that it matters, Luton came first

On the contrary........from where I'm based, it matters greatly!!