Curiousity question: Foreign crests on Ireland flags

**Den Perry** · 01/04/2007, 8:02 PM

Imagine my shock when I turned to the guy next to me at the Wales game and asked "is that chelsea written on the flag over there...", when the guy infront of me turns around in a broad English accent and says "yeh it is mate, and I'm proud of it.....". Over 72,000 people there and he's in front of me!

Anyway, I though it stupid that such a flag be there until I heard his accent, If it was some Chelsea fan reared over here taht had it I would have scorned it, BUT he was obviously reared in England, considers himself Irish and chelsea are the club he grew up supporting so fair enoughMust admit he seemed decent enough for a Chelsea fan as well....any opinions?

**YankExile** · 01/04/2007, 8:13 PM

I'm of two minds here. If he was reared in England, it's understandable for him to be a Chelsea fan, even if he is Irish. But they are still an English team, and have no place on an ROI flag.

**YankExile** · 01/04/2007, 8:21 PM

I've seen a lot of rants here about ROI flags with Chelsea crests, or Liverpool, ManU, Celtic, etc. All the crests I've seen mentioned are either EPL or SPL. Has anyone ever encountered foreign crests from outside the UK on an Irish flag? It would look rather strange to see a Barca crest, for example, on an ROI flag. Maybe when Ireland plays friendlies in the US, some Irish-Americans may fly a tricolor with the crest of the local MLS team.

If I was at an Ireland game in the Republic, I would most likely fly a flag with the Cork City crest. Although I would be sorely tempted to use the Toronto crest, just to mess with people's heads. I'd get some strange looks, I bet.

reder · 01/04/2007, 9:05 PM

I remember seeing a tri-colour with Lazio in letters and a crest a few seasons ago on the Curva Nord in the Stadio Olimpico, Rome. Havent watch Italian football since then so I dont know if its still there.

How would people feel if that made an appearance in Croke Park or at an away game?

**YankExile** · 01/04/2007, 9:17 PM

Hmmm, had meant to post as a new topic rather than tacking this onto the Chelsea flag one. lol

**gustavo** · 01/04/2007, 9:35 PM

Well it is the title of the new thread! just merged the two as they were very much linked.

**Beavis** · 02/04/2007, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by reder

I remember seeing a tri-colour with Lazio in letters and a crest a few seasons ago on the Curva Nord in the Stadio Olimpico, Rome. Havent watch Italian football since then so I dont know if its still there.

Maybe it could have something to do with the Celtic Cross being an emblem used by of neo facisms/nazis and they have now linked that to Ireland (obviously renowned as a Celtic nation but thats a very random guess) or more likely; it was an italian flag with the red faded to orange

**kingdom hoop** · 02/04/2007, 1:09 AM

seems like the cheapskate's way out to me. why not have two flags, an irish one for irish games and a chelsea one for chelsea games. as it is perhaps a new sub-category of race, chelsea-irish, ought to be coined with the above mentioned bloke as the archetype.

**fergalr** · 07/05/2007, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by reder

I remember seeing a tri-colour with Lazio in letters and a crest a few seasons ago on the Curva Nord in the Stadio Olimpico, Rome. Havent watch Italian football since then so I dont know if its still there.

Dunno about Lazio but I have met the Roma fan who flies the tricolour at every home game.

**NY Hoop** · 08/05/2007, 2:01 PM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

I was standing beside the bird in San Marino who went off and ripped down that Chelsea flag. She was livid!! I wasn't gonna stand in her way either.

Must buy her a pint sometime.

KOH

**NeilMcD** · 09/05/2007, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

I was standing beside the bird in San Marino who went off and ripped down that Chelsea flag. She was livid!! I wasn't gonna stand in her way either.

Ahh those Chelsea fans always drinking on buses

**Sligo Hornet** · 09/05/2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Ahh those Chelsea fans always drinking on buses

How true....... "abiding by the rules" is obviously not high on the agenda for the Chelsea folk!!

**Torn-Ado** · 09/05/2007, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by fergalr

Dunno about Lazio but I have met the Roma fan who flies the tricolour at every home game.

Funny you should mention that. I was at a game between AC milan and Roma nine years ago in the San siro and there was a triclour right in the middle of the Roma fans.

**The Good Son** · 09/05/2007, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

Funny you should mention that. I was at a game between AC milan and Roma nine years ago in the San siro and there was a triclour right in the middle of the Roma fans.

See here
http://www.irishclan.org/

**Torn-Ado** · 09/05/2007, 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Good Son

See here
http://www.irishclan.org/

Thats pretty savage. All Republican Roman head cases I would presume.

**KildareRed** · 09/05/2007, 2:14 PM

There was 1 or 2 in Roma End v Utd this year in Rome if memory serves me correctly

**galwayhoop** · 09/05/2007, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by KildareRed

There was 1 or 2 in Roma End v Utd this year in Rome if memory serves me correctly

better than the muppets in the ManUre end methinks

**supasparx** · 12/05/2007, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sligo Hornet

How true....... "abiding by the rules" is obviously not high on the agenda for the Chelsea folk!!

Not to mention Watford fans with vodka stashed in water bottles!

**Bring Back Mick** · 14/05/2007, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

To be honest, after the embarrassment of that bus incident I was quite pleased that flag got taken down.

You know what was really embarrassing about the bus trip was the return journey from San Marino, when a certain person was expressing their racist views about potential players that may be called up to represent IRELAND in the future coming from the influx of immigrants now settling in Ireland......
shocking !!!

**red bellied** · 14/05/2007, 7:54 PM

Often see tricolours at European games against English clubs usually the Italians have them. I presume its to bait the English clubs, as the European supporters presumably see Ireland as Englands arch enemy.