Ireland v USSR, Euro 88, New Year's Day

**OwlsFan** · 03/01/2007, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by BradyIsMyHero

. . Sheedy was a marvellous and gifted player - had all of the footballing qualities of David Beckham, but without the pop star image. Unfortunately, Jack didn't fancy him, and dropped him for the next game against Holland.

Jack didn't fancy Sheedy. Just not true as already explained. However, come 1990 when Jack still played Sheedy, his best years were behind him. He used to score some superb goals for that very good Everton team of the 1980s.

However, I agree I might have misinterpreted the part where he said "Jack put a stop to all that". Can be interpreted as referring to the Soviet's style of total football as well as opposed to Sheedy's great football so I'll put my hand up there if I am wrong

**osarusan** · 03/01/2007, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

However, I agree I might have misinterpreted the part where he said "Jack put a stop to all that". Can be interpreted as referring to the Soviet's style of total football as well as opposed to Sheedy's great football so I'll put my hand up there if I am wrong

Aye, I dont ever remember Jack, or anybody, having a problem with Sheedy, unless he meant a problem in a specific position.

But I may be wrong also, perhaps he has info we don't. Dont have stats on how many games Sheedy played under Jack, but I dont remember any controversy at any time. But I was only a young wan back then.

**pineapple stu** · 03/01/2007, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

I was at the match and had a great view of the peno which was never given. A cast iron peno at that. Aldridge kicked over when he should have headed the ball.

You mustn't have had that great a view of it then! It was Galvin who was "decapitated" (to use Charlton's word), not Aldridge. And if he'd have gone in for the header, he would have been decapitated. Dassayev came out with a sliding tackle and Galvin nicked it past him before getting creamed.

What was really interesting though was that there was absolutely no appeal for it - not from the players, not from Hamilton (who never mentioned the idea of a penalty), not from anyone. Wierd!

Originally Posted by osurasan

Don't have stats on how many games Sheedy played under Jack

Sheedy got 46 caps between 1983 and 1993. In the same period, we played 93 games. I think he was with Blackpool when he got his last cap, so he certainly wasn't discarded too quickly anyway.

Interesting to hear Hamilton talk about how Sheedy wanted away from Everton for playing left-wing, although he was happy to play there for Ireland.

**Wolfie** · 03/01/2007, 2:07 PM

Sheedy had his moments.

The equaliser against England in the 90 World Cup was quality - an opportunistic and powerful strike.

Converted peno No 1 against Romania in the Peno Shoot Out in 90.

I remember Jack Charlton said in an interview that he asked Sheedy prior to taking the peno where was he going to place it.

Sheedy said "I'm going to smash it straight down the middle over the Keeper".

And he did...............

**Fergie's Son** · 03/01/2007, 3:34 PM

I never heard of any problems between Sheedy and Charlton. He was an excellent player for Ireland. Could not ask for anything more. He even scored a late equalizer against Norway I believe to preserve our unbeaten run at Lansdowne

**Irish_Praha** · 03/01/2007, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

I never heard of any problems between Sheedy and Charlton. He was an excellent player for Ireland. Could not ask for anything more. He even scored a late equalizer against Norway I believe to preserve our unbeaten run at Lansdowne

I could google that but i think it was against Finland not norway.

**Irish_Praha** · 03/01/2007, 6:52 PM

Did a google and it was Finland in 1990, apprarently it was Liam Brady's testimonial.

**as_i_say** · 03/01/2007, 9:45 PM

think sheedy got his last goal in the 4-0 home win against latvija in 1992

**Superhoops** · 03/01/2007, 9:46 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You mustn't have had that great a view of it then! It was Galvin who was "decapitated" (to use Charlton's word), not Aldridge. And if he'd have gone in for the header, he would have been decapitated. Dassayev came out with a sliding tackle and Galvin nicked it past him before getting creamed.

Sheedy got 46 caps between 1983 and 1993. In the same period, we played 93 games. I think he was with Blackpool when he got his last cap, so he certainly wasn't discarded too quickly anyway......

Kevin Sheedy was first capped by Eoin Hand when he came on for the last 10 minutes as a sub for Tony Grealish against Holland in Lansdowne in October 1983, a game we lost 2-3 after leading 2-0 at half-time.

When Jack took over in March 1986, Sheedy had 8 caps. He did not play in Jack's first 5 games. His first game for Jack was the 0-0 home draw against Scotland in October 1986 and in the next game, a 1-0 defeat away to Poland in November 1986. He did not play again for Jack until November 1987 when he was in th etema that beat Israel 5-0 at Dalymount.

In Euro 1988, he started one game (v USSR) and came on as sub in the other two. He played fairly regularly in 1989 and 1990 and in Italia 1990, he started in all 5 games. He did not played in any of the three games at the end of 1990, but returned to duty for the 'ice show' against Wales in Wrexham in February 1991. He was in the starting line up for every game from then until we played Wales again 12 months later in the RDS.

Between that game and the next game at home to Switzerland in March 1992, a game in which he came on as a sub, he moved from Everton to Newcastle. He started in the home WC qualifiers against Albania, May 1992, (won 2-0) and Latvia, September 1992, (won 4-0) - his last starting game for Ireland.

He got his 46th and last cap when he came on as a sub. and scored (his 9th international goal) against Wales in the 2-1 win at Tolka in February 1993. He was still with Newcastle at the time.

I always thought he was unlucky not to get to the 50 caps mark, he certainly deserved it.

**Noelys Guitar** · 03/01/2007, 9:58 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You mustn't have had that great a view of it then! It was Galvin who was "decapitated" (to use Charlton's word), not Aldridge. And if he'd have gone in for the header, he would have been decapitated. Dassayev came out with a sliding tackle and Galvin nicked it past him before getting creamed.

What was really interesting though was that there was absolutely no appeal for it - not from the players, not from Hamilton (who never mentioned the idea of a penalty), not from anyone. Wierd!

Sheedy got 46 caps between 1983 and 1993. In the same period, we played 93 games. I think he was with Blackpool when he got his last cap, so he certainly wasn't discarded too quickly anyway.

Interesting to hear Hamilton talk about how Sheedy wanted away from Everton for playing left-wing, although he was happy to play there for Ireland.

Aldridge lunged at the ball with his foot when he should have headed the ball. Clear chance. The 'peno' incident came before that happened. And Sheedy almost scored against the Dutch. If I remember rightly Ray houghton got in his way as he was about to shoot.

**OwlsFan** · 04/01/2007, 4:42 PM

There is actually a valid Irish claim for a peno in the Dutch game after their goal. There is a clear push on Aldridge in the box - watch the video some day and you'll see him mimicking the push to the linesman and then watch it again and you'll see the clear push

**Wolfie** · 04/01/2007, 6:41 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

There is actually a valid Irish claim for a peno in the Dutch game after their goal. There is a clear push on Aldridge in the box - watch the video some day and you'll see him mimicking the push to the linesman and then watch it again and you'll see the clear push

The McGrath header off the post in the 8th minute still haunts me to this day. Hit the post, hit Frank Rykaard on the back and landed on the goal line.

Old news but we pushed them close.

As for their goal...............

**NY Hoop** · 05/01/2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Wolfie

The McGrath header off the post in the 8th minute still haunts me to this day. Hit the post, hit Frank Rykaard on the back and landed on the goal line.

Old news but we pushed them close.

As for their goal...............

Hit Gerald Vanenburg on the line.

KOH

**Wolfie** · 05/01/2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Hit Gerald Vanenburg on the line.

KOH

Stand corrected - Vandenburg so!

I think the point was that we were very unlucky not to score as opposed to who it hit on the line!!

**eirebhoy** · 16/01/2007, 6:02 PM

9pm Friday on Setanta.

International Football - ROI vs Northern Ireland
A look back at the classic encounter involving Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland at Landsdowne from 1989, where national pride was pushed aside for quality football to take over. This was a huge game in the push for World Cup 1990 qualification.

**Wolfie** · 16/01/2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

9pm Friday on Setanta.

International Football - ROI vs Northern Ireland
A look back at the classic encounter involving Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland at Landsdowne from 1989, where national pride was pushed aside for quality football to take over. This was a huge game in the push for World Cup 1990 qualification.

That was a crucial result alright. 3 Nil - you beauty!!

The tension in the ground during the first half was unbearable. O'Neill should have scored on two occasions for the North before Whelan finished well just before half time - the place went Radio Rental.

Our second goal lifted the pressure, and the remainder of the game was a stroll - I remember Aldridge had a catelogue of near misses.

A great day and I think it was our first recorded victory over the North.

**pineapple stu** · 17/01/2007, 5:43 PM

All got brought down the hall in school for that one. 2:30 Wednesday kick off or something - you'd never hear of it nowadays!

**Wolfie** · 17/01/2007, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

All got brought down the hall in school for that one. 2:30 Wednesday kick off or something - you'd never hear of it nowadays!

That's right!, early afternoon kick off - started early for security reasons.

Used to get a half day from school on Wednesdays and vividly remember standing on the North terrace for that game. A real feeling of elation after that game - people were daring to think we could finally be going to a World Cup.