Legal situation gets worse?

[dcfcsteve]

Byrne is digging a massive hole for himself, and if he is as smart as he thought he was he would realise that the decision has been made about Derry's Hargan fiasco and can not now be brought up again!

I suspect he's just mentioning it to try to force the FAI/league's hand on the McGuiness affair.

Threatening even further chaos if he doesn't get his way.

[onceahoop]

Honest to god, the hypocrisy of Ollie Byrne knows no limits.

In the registration season, Pats begged for it to be extended on account of our fixture congestion. Ollie was adamant that it should finish on the scheduled date and naturally enough, the League backed him up. As a result, we ended up playing 5 games in 13 days.

Now he wants the season extended to avoid Shels having fixture congestion. Didn't notice him asking for it to be extended cos of Derry's fixture congestion - in the interests of fair play.

Oily should remember the old Chineese proverb. He who wears two faces ends up bewildered.

[green-blood]

he doe not want the season extended, he want sthe whole thing postponed now, all games for all teams stopped until a resolution if found post arbitration

which has nothing to do with fixture congestion and everyhting to do with not having the league running on friday when Shels will fail to pay their players for a 3rd week - breaking their contrats and allowing them to walk....

[Tenderloins]

Is there any provision for teams to be docked points for non payment of players?

[Celdrog]

Is there any provision for teams to be docked points for non payment of players?

Not sure but there is for not having adequate security arrangements and fans firing fireworks into opposition fans. Drogs are currently putting a complaint to the league about last Friday in Tolka and in the rule book is the potential to dock points !!

[pineapple stu]

There's also a legal precedent for rejecting replays awarded by the FAI in lieu of games affected by the presence of a suspended player, but the FAI seem to have waived that in Shels' case as well. I'd imagine if there is such a precedent, it wouldn't apply to Shels.

[Buile Shuibhne]

There's also a legal precedent for rejecting replays awarded by the FAI in lieu of games affected by the presence of a suspended player, but the FAI seem to have waived that in Shels' case as well. I'd imagine if there is such a precedent, it wouldn't apply to Shels.

I presume you're referring to the Fran Carter / Pat Byrne / Milo Corcoran debacle.

This was about an incorrect registration matter.

Ineligibility cases due to registration transgressions are viewed as less serious than ineligibility cases where a player breechs a disciplinary sanction.

A different matter and therefore no precedent.

Google it yourself - but here's a fairly accurate account of the Fran Carter case.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~finnharps/harpingonkil.htm

[pineapple stu]

Ineligibility cases due to registration transgressions are viewed as less serious than ineligibility cases where a player breechs a disciplinary sanction.

Your entire premise goes around this claim, which is surely counter-intuitive. An ineligible player is an ineligible player. Have you any basis for stating that there's a difference in treatment?

[Buile Shuibhne]

Check the Rule Book - there's a link to it somewhere.

Rule 21.4 specifically refers to playing a player who is under suspension by the FAI or the F.A.I. National League


There is a separate Rule dealing with unregistered players

Two different rules

[wws]

Ineligibility cases due to registration transgressions are viewed as less serious than ineligibility cases where a player breechs a disciplinary sanction.

viewed as less serious by who?

according to what rule?

[pineapple stu]

Check the Rule Book - there's a link to it somewhere.

Rule 21.4 specifically refers to playing a player who is under suspension by the FAI or the F.A.I. National League


There is a separate Rule dealing with unregistered players

Two different rules

That proves nothing. You've referred to one rule and are using that to compare to another rule which you're not stating. Rules can be different but still give the same end result.

[Buile Shuibhne]

viewed as less serious by who?

the blazers

[wws]

the blazers

yeah but says who? where?

rule please

[Poor Student]

Fintan, what's the latest with the reports in the paper that Shels are seeking to have the season halted?

[Mr A]

Google it yourself - but here's a fairly accurate account of the Fran Carter case.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~finnharps/harpingonkil.htm

Jebus, what was I thinking submitting that to the programme- the FAI would have drop kicked us out of the league if we published that!

It's all true though.