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    https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soc...clubs-36598541

    Over 1 million revenue made from LOI TV last year,128% increase since 2021

    Scanlon believe’s dodgy boxes are causing the same again being lost though

    “social media presence continues to grow, with Instagram views up 284 percent to 67.9million, TikTok views up 123 percent to 21million, and YouTube highlights views up 45 percent to 1.7million.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    First 10 matches to be shown by Virgin Media will be:

    Virgin Media Television live broadcasts on Virgin Media Two and Virgin Media Play with newly confirmed fixtures:

    • Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk, Tallaght Stadium - Friday, 6 February (KO 20:00)
    • Bohemians v St. Patrick’s Athletic - Aviva Stadium - Sunday, 8 February (KO 14:00)
    • Shelbourne v Shamrock Rovers, Tolka Park - Friday, 13 February (KO 20:00)
    • Dundalk v Drogheda United, Oriel Park - Friday, 20 February (KO 20:00) - *Virgin Media Three
    • Bohemians v Shamrock Rovers, Dalymount Park - Friday, 27 February (KO 20:00)
    • Shelbourne v St. Patrick’s Athletic, Tolka Park - Friday, 6 March (KO 20:00)
    • Sligo Rovers v Shamrock Rovers, The Showgrounds - Friday, 13 March (KO 20:00)
    • Galway United v Waterford, Eamonn Deacy Park - Monday, 16 March (KO 20:00)
    • Bohemians v Dundalk, Dalymount Park - Friday, 20 March (KO 20:00)
    • Galway United v Derry City - Friday, 3 April (KO 20:00)


    https://www.leagueofireland.ie/news/...-loi-fixtures/
    The usual heavy Dublin bias there. I get why Virgin would think Dublin derbies would have TV appeal - but surely the majority of those interested in a game like Shels-Pats will be actually at it ? As opposed to screening home games for the likes of Waterford or Derry against the best-supported clubs, because away fan numbers to those places will be relatively low - so there would be a lot of motivated non-travelling fans keen to watch.

    Derry only being screened once in the first 10 games is pretty disgraceful to be honest, given that they're title challengers and now also with the James McClean angle too (which would presuably attract people usually not interested in LOI). It just shows how Dublin-focused this coverage is (despite Galway being visited twice).

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    11 Dublin teams v 9 non Dublin teams in the 10 games with everyone being show. It’s pretty balanced considering the Dublin teams have the biggest support bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah View Post
    11 Dublin teams v 9 non Dublin teams in the 10 games with everyone being show. It’s pretty balanced considering the Dublin teams have the biggest support bases.
    6 of the 10 televised games (60%) being located in Dublin, whilst only 40& of the Premier Division clubs are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    6 of the 10 televised games (60%) being located in Dublin, whilst only 40& of the Premier Division clubs are.
    The Bohs v Pats game throws the figures. If Bohs v Pats was in Dalymount on a Friday night, only one game would be shown that weekend and the percentage would be 50%. Any club located outside of Dublin who are riding high after the first round of games will feature more in the latter rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    The usual heavy Dublin bias there. I get why Virgin would think Dublin derbies would have TV appeal - but surely the majority of those interested in a game like Shels-Pats will be actually at it ? As opposed to screening home games for the likes of Waterford or Derry against the best-supported clubs, because away fan numbers to those places will be relatively low - so there would be a lot of motivated non-travelling fans keen to watch.

    Derry only being screened once in the first 10 games is pretty disgraceful to be honest, given that they're title challengers and now also with the James McClean angle too (which would presuably attract people usually not interested in LOI). It just shows how Dublin-focused this coverage is (despite Galway being visited twice).
    The Derby games are the biggest attraction and the only other real derby game is Dundalk v Drogheda which is on the viewing list. With stadium capacities mostly below 6k then the expected tv viewing figures for these games should be the highest. I understand your James McClean point but one fairly high profile signing doesn't guarantee winning the league and therefore shouldn't warrant more tv time. Derry attendance figures should rise with McClean in the team but if they are on a bad run these will drop off. However if Derry are on a winning run attendance will be good and I'm sure they will feature on VM a bit more. Remember there is always LOI TV so if someone really wants to watch a game they can do so for a small fee.

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    Also, the televised fixtures were announced before James McClean was announced as a new signing for Derry. To be honest if it had’ve been the other way around I feel they’d have featured more than once in those first 10 games as Virgin do seem to like the angle of the ‘big names’ on their coverage which is also part of the reason why they had shels/duff on so much and Kenny/Pats when he returned initially
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Also, the televised fixtures were announced before James McClean was announced as a new signing for Derry. To be honest if it had’ve been the other way around I feel they’d have featured more than once in those first 10 games as Virgin do seem to like the angle of the ‘big names’ on their coverage which is also part of the reason why they had shels/duff on so much and Kenny/Pats when he returned initially
    Does that mean if Bohs sign Dele Ali they'll be on even more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkicker View Post
    The Bohs v Pats game throws the figures. If Bohs v Pats was in Dalymount on a Friday night, only one game would be shown that weekend and the percentage would be 50%. Any club located outside of Dublin who are riding high after the first round of games will feature more in the latter rounds.
    But 50-50 isn't balanced either, when you have a 40-60 split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkicker View Post
    The Derby games are the biggest attraction and the only other real derby game is Dundalk v Drogheda which is on the viewing list. With stadium capacities mostly below 6k then the expected tv viewing figures for these games should be the highest. I understand your James McClean point but one fairly high profile signing doesn't guarantee winning the league and therefore shouldn't warrant more tv time. Derry attendance figures should rise with McClean in the team but if they are on a bad run these will drop off. However if Derry are on a winning run attendance will be good and I'm sure they will feature on VM a bit more. Remember there is always LOI TV so if someone really wants to watch a game they can do so for a small fee.
    Do we have statistical evidence to say that Shels v Pats, for example, would draw a bigger TV crowd than for example Cork v Rovers (in general - obviously not this year) ? Or Derry v Rovers? Or do we just all nod along with the belief that Dublin teams are always the biggest draw, no matter which ones it is or how they're doing in the league?

    Also - as I outlined earlier, a very high proportion of those most motivated to watch both teams at a Dublin derby (i.e. their main siupporters) will be at the game (and yes - I know away tickets are limited). Whereas when any of the Dublin clubs play away - especially in places like Cork, Derry or Sligo - there are literally thousands of regular supporters of one of the two teams playing who don't go/can't go - and therefore dependent on wathcing on TV. So which is realistically going to attract more hardcore LOI fans/watchers?

    With the exception of Bohs-Rovers, it honestly feels like there is a lazy assumption that the Dublin teams and Dublin derbies is where all the big TV interest is at in the league. But unless there are actual audience viewing stats to prove that, it's all just assumption/opinion/prejudice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkicker View Post
    Does that mean if Bohs sign Dele Ali they'll be on even more?
    They've more chance of getting Delhi Belly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    But 50-50 isn't balanced either, when you have a 40-60 split.
    I'm not a dub, and don't live there, so I've no bias in this. But considering the 4 Dublin clubs had the highest average attendance last year, and also all 4 finished in the top 5, it makes sense from a commerical interest to have a mild bias towards showing those sides.

    When RTE were the ones showing the league, that bias seemed excessive, where as right now they've got the balance right imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Do we have statistical evidence to say that Shels v Pats, for example, would draw a bigger TV crowd than for example Cork v Rovers (in general - obviously not this year) ? Or Derry v Rovers? Or do we just all nod along with the belief that Dublin teams are always the biggest draw, no matter which ones it is or how they're doing in the league?

    Also - as I outlined earlier, a very high proportion of those most motivated to watch both teams at a Dublin derby (i.e. their main siupporters) will be at the game (and yes - I know away tickets are limited). Whereas when any of the Dublin clubs play away - especially in places like Cork, Derry or Sligo - there are literally thousands of regular supporters of one of the two teams playing who don't go/can't go - and therefore dependent on wathcing on TV. So which is realistically going to attract more hardcore LOI fans/watchers?

    With the exception of Bohs-Rovers, it honestly feels like there is a lazy assumption that the Dublin teams and Dublin derbies is where all the big TV interest is at in the league. But unless there are actual audience viewing stats to prove that, it's all just assumption/opinion/prejudice.
    The most watched match on LOITV last year was Bohs vs Pats

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Do we have statistical evidence to say that Shels v Pats, for example, would draw a bigger TV crowd than for example Cork v Rovers (in general - obviously not this year) ? Or Derry v Rovers? Or do we just all nod along with the belief that Dublin teams are always the biggest draw, no matter which ones it is or how they're doing in the league?

    Also - as I outlined earlier, a very high proportion of those most motivated to watch both teams at a Dublin derby (i.e. their main siupporters) will be at the game (and yes - I know away tickets are limited). Whereas when any of the Dublin clubs play away - especially in places like Cork, Derry or Sligo - there are literally thousands of regular supporters of one of the two teams playing who don't go/can't go - and therefore dependent on wathcing on TV. So which is realistically going to attract more hardcore LOI fans/watchers?

    With the exception of Bohs-Rovers, it honestly feels like there is a lazy assumption that the Dublin teams and Dublin derbies is where all the big TV interest is at in the league. But unless there are actual audience viewing stats to prove that, it's all just assumption/opinion/prejudice.
    In your example above you mention Cork and Derry v Rovers, the big audience attraction there would be Rovers or it could be Bohs or Pats. If Derry played Cork, Galway or Waterford the figures would be less and I'm sure you'll agree with this. So the biggest attraction are the Dublin clubs, until a club from outside of Dublin overtake rovers and attracts more viewers. This may be Derry who have assembled a great squad this year and hopefully somebody can take the title from Rovers. I don't think it's a lazy assumption, it's more of an accepted fact. Someone also posted here that Bohs v Pats was the largest audience on LOI TV last year. When I'm sure most people on here would have thought it would be Bohs v Rovers or Rovers v Derry in the title race. If Derry V Rovers was on VM I'd be watching Bohs V the bottom club on LOI TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEars View Post
    I'm not a dub, and don't live there, so I've no bias in this. But considering the 4 Dublin clubs had the highest average attendance last year, and also all 4 finished in the top 5, it makes sense from a commerical interest to have a mild bias towards showing those sides.
    Mentioned on one of the podcasts last year, matches invovling Dublin teams have consistently higher viewing figures.
    With Virgin, they're a commercial company, so it makes sense they'll pick Dublin teams, and ideally Dublin venues as it saves on their travel costs.

    Personally, I'd be happy not having any matches from the Brandywell on TV, as it affects attendances. Not as much as it did in the past, but still an impact.

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