Not even 3 games, it's the Wexford game that has killed us. 2 up then a man sent off and it ends in a draw. I didn't pass much heed at the time because I thought the season was pretty much over, but those dropped 2 points would have had us a point ahead of Wexford going into tomorrow for a 3 way showdown to get 5th. Pity about it, but I'm still really happy at such a strong end to the season.Originally Posted by De Town
SSE Airtricity Men's First Division Play-Off Semi-Finals (two-legged, home & away)
2nd place v 5th place
3rd place v 4th place
First legs to take place on Friday October 24th and Second legs to take place onm Tuesday October 28th.
The winners on aggregrate advance.
SSE Airtricity Men's First Division Play-Off Final
The two semi-final winners face off at a neutral venue to be decided depending on participating teams on Sunday November 2nd.
SSE Airtricity Men's Premier Division Promotion/Relegation Play-Off
The winner of the SSE Airtricity Men's First Division Play-Off Final then faces the 9th-placed team in a one-legged Play-Off game on Friday, November 7th at a neutral venue to be decided and depending on the participating teams.
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After all teams have played each 4 times during the regular season, two legged semi finals seems excessive. 2nd could be home to 5th and 3rd at home to 4th in one legged semi finals. The highest ranked finalist on league placing could have home advantage in the final.
It's the promotion relegation playoff that should be over two legs. Two teams who haven't played each over during the regular league season.
The two legs allow both teams to make a few bob off the gate so i agree with that tbf.
I like the one off nature of the final to be honest also evens it up a bit for the first division team being a one off.
All the play off finals in the UK are one legged with 2 legged semi finals, not that im saying we should be like them but it is a normal enough format
I actually think there should be 2 automatic promotion/relegations and then a playoff final after*. The current system I think works in terms of how the 1st divison sides get there. In the past there would have been an argument for holding the play-off final before the cup final when the Aviva would be half full. I dont think league ranking should come in to the play-off final, giving a significant advantage to the Premier Division side**
*Not when Dundalk are in the Premier Division!!!
**Unless Dundalk are in the play-off final!!!
I actually think the promotion/relegation playoff should be done away with altogether and it should be two automatically down and the winner of the First Division playoff promoted.
The play-off stinks totally of 'compromise' ie 2 teams down were wanted but the PD teams got that to one automoatically relegated and probably tried to do away with automatic relegation with a playoff for last spot (I actually think that was a proposal from Drogheda, at least for a certain period, until clubs stabilised financially without jeopardy of relegation, maybe its was their All Ireland league proposal, but against UEFA regs).
This isnt a pointed question Nigel, If Harps were in the PD and 2 automatic relegation was being voted on would you vote for if you were club delegate? Even if it was the fairest thing to do I dont think I would if it risked Dundalk. Why progress is so slow in LoI and the league went to the FAI to be run. How many of us would truly not be thinking my club first' in decision making.
It really shouldn't be up to the clubs to decide the rules though. Probably one of the reasons the league has been in the doldrums for so long is because the teams have been the ones making the decisions for too long.
Turkey's voting for Christmas! Nicely evaded the question lol. I should probably have asked is there anyone who would vote for the best system even if that put your club at greater risk of things like relegation or losing European slots, for the greater good and all that. If things are not done democratically though whats to stop total madness, moving say the likes of Dundalk to the Aviva....or junior clubs dictating how the senior game is runs
2nd to 5th in the playoffs has achieved the objective of giving more FD clubs a lifeline. Taking all the comments in recent posts into consideration, something like the following could be a tweak:
Quarter final: 4th v 5th over two legs.
Semi finals: 2nd v 3rd over two legs and 9th PD v QF winner over two legs.
Final: Semi final winners in one off game.
The First Division regular season could finish just a week before the Premier Division ends, allowing the two legged quarter final to be played out on the Monday-Friday. 4th and 5th would have a harder slog through the playoffs but that should be fair after finishing lower in the league.
Shamrock Rovers and Shelbourne will be playing up to December. If the playoff format above was agreeable, three clubs would be playing a bit deeper into November.
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined.
First Division 2014: 7 first teams and a B team.
Opportunity lost for new clubs to join GLITW.
I think after 2 rounds of fixtures , a PD top 6 split play each other 4 times. Point reset to zero but points difference added at the end of the season
Then a bottom 4 of Pd, top 6 fd with points reset to zero and a 20 game home and away with top 4 playing in Pd. Placings
The bottom 4 of the fd can 6 play regional teams for the right to be in the loi.
A complicated format thats like Belgian or Swiss league craic
Even taking away from the many reasons as to how bat**** crazy that suggestion is, playing the same teams 6 times plus cup games is absolutely not what the league needs
Paaatrick's Agletic
Bat crazy is right.
I think the top 5 in the Premier should be guaranteed at least a playoff spot for Europe. 2 or 3 teams, depending on the cup winner, for the final European spot. Could be held at the start of the next season in early February.
Been discussed before though. I accept being in the minority in favour of a European playoff. 😎
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined.
First Division 2014: 7 first teams and a B team.
Opportunity lost for new clubs to join GLITW.
February would be way too late for a Euro playoff. Clubs would have their budgets done long before that
McDermott leaving Cobh tonight...a bizarre time for that, and can only be good for Treaty.
Well his cryptic social media post on Friday more or less stated he was gone.
love to see Cobh get thru the play-offs and win the Premier spot under Richie Holland now!
Maybe it would work in 12 team PD but seems a bit harsh for a 10 team div, team finishing 9th auto relegated.
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), only Irish club to win a game / points in Europa League Group Stage (2016).
I dunno, there's a bit of faff in the current set-up. Why should 50% of the teams in the first divison be in with a chance of promotion? Or ninth-placed in the Premier get a bye to the final? Why not PD9 v FD4 and FD2 v FD3 over two legs, winners into the playoff (one fewer game than currently). OK, a first division team misses out on a playoff spot, but the Premier team faces the extra jeopardy of two banana skins and the full attention of the schadenfreude crowd, which makes it fun for neutrals too!.
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TBF, the only reasoning behind the FD playoffs is that without them most of the teams would effectively be going through dead rubbers for the final third of the season, your suggestion would work very well though.
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