American Politics

[seanfhear]

Do you live over in the States too?

~ No ~

[Nesta99]

He is certainly of the Left ( probably, brainwashed in college )

How far is yer average Lefty from being a Communist when given, the chance / brain washing ?

Anyone who thinks that college/university = left wing indoctrination hasnt been to university. For every socialist workers party union member there is a christian union member which by my experience of multiple universities you have to be a certain kind of christian to be accepted as a member. Lecturers vary by way of their own personal leanings. Students by nature are activists but not exclusively on leftist issues, demonstrations often have counter demonstrations unless there is common self interest ie proposed increased tuition fees. Any half decent Students Union is mandated by democratic processes though in close plebicites there will be a bunch of people with noses out of joint but thats democracy, majority rules and majorities change. Clubs and Societies rules themselves as long as they are not breaking laws can do and say what they like within reason, and it takes some pretty severe stuff for legal action to be initiated. There may be a perception that students lean to extremes at universities but they are the vocal few with the vast majority seeing an SU as a cheap boozer.

I lean left when it comes to something like universal healthcare and education because it tends to be cheaper in the long run than forcing people in to poverty traps and drive up crime and disorder. I lean right when it comes to crime and disorder as I want to see proper deterrents to idiots being idiots, the kind that have no excuse like being raised with privilage and wipe a family out drink driving, sexual predators I think are too softly punished, and any crime against the elderly angers me to the point of the extreme - I have to recognise that there is a need for being (relatively) proportionate, animal cruelty Id think that person deserves a dose of their one medicine but not exactly civilised to do so.

More guns=more gun violence, is that a lefty opinion or a statement of common sense, like more cars on the road means there's more likely to be car crashes no matter how well people are trained and are careful, never mind the idiots on top.

Sadly my choice of political votes are given to the least worse option in some elections, I know who I dont want in power a lot more than knowing who I want to elect. It wont be the extremes of the poitical spectrum for sure. We got close in Ireland to getting away from the if you are not with me you are against me, not having legacy voting, putting civil war politics behind us. But we are watching it thrive elsehwere and it is driving that trend back in to Irish politics again albeit in different ways and on different topics.

Im sure its straight forward to agree that American politics is partcularly poisoned, its almost irrelevant why or caused by whom. With very little bipartison agreement that country is weaker for it. What I see is blatant bluffing of the current amninistration on many issues, moving the goalposts and nobody calling it out. Far too much harping back to previous admins with a blame game. I see the opposition party as weak, paralysed, unable to get their policy messages across in a way that resonates as beneficial to the electorate. The politics of of populism reigns and I fear it gaining more traction in Europe. Immigration is an issue, its being blamed for a whole lot of other issues which is spurious at best eg a housing crisis that is rooted in social housing stock being sold off from the 90s on rent to purchase schemes. Issues being hijacked to reinforce various agendas and conspiracies like abort to import...

Ok I have gone off on a meandering stream of thought, I think someone should call it the weave. So to tie it all together, for people to use political violence to justify political violence is nuts, selective classing of who has been the victims of political violence in the US is nuts. Alienatng international military allies is nuts. Undermining media reporting is nuts. Giving naickname is funny for the wrong reasons, Building a ballroom that is bigger than whole white house is ..... BS, thinking stealth fighters can just disappear in front of you is hilarious, cleaning the inside of people with bleach to treat a virus is super high IQ stuff. Whatever about the politics some of the main people in the 45/47th administration will go down as thick as pig sh1te, even if billions have been made by them in the process. There isnt a whole lot to say on the 46th admin, its was pretty mundane and average. I probably shouldnt say there should be an upper age limit for US president but if their is a lower age limit then maybe.

[Nesta99]

~ No ~

In the spirit of yes or no answers only then, here's a few if you'd like to clarify Sean and Mark, be it Ireland or the USA. Its probably a bit unfair to put anyone on the spot but in the absence of discussion with a rationale sure why not. Elaborate too.

Do you have and issue with or dislike political or cultural liberalism?
Do you dislike marxism/communism (why would be interesting albeit not a yes or no question)?
Have you been a mamber of or would joing a trade union?
Would you see the problems facing Irish society rooted in issues such as immigration?
Do you think the university education should be focused, rather than broad and allowing for critical thinking?
Do you think that Irish culture is at risk of being diluted or destroyed?
Do you see liberalism as eroding eg family values?
Do you feel that women should fulfill the roles of raising a family, being predominantly stay at home mothers?
Do you consider there to be a class system in Ireland and if so is it a bad think? eg an educated elite
Do you see Irish people in any way superior to other communities in Ireland, say immigrants.
Do you think that the social safety net of the state should be removed?
Is a nations military important and by extension should all people be in some way trained or integrated in to national military.
Do you find military pomp and ceremony appealing?
Would you find a charismatic political leader appealing even if or especially if they dont play by the rules? Is a strong leader as or more important than a strong government?
Do you think the end justifies the means in terms of politics and providing for a people?

Most importantly!!!
Would you vote for Conor McGregor for president if he was nominated?......

[seanfhear]

In the spirit of yes or no answers only then, here's a few if you'd like to clarify Sean and Mark, be it Ireland or the USA. Its probably a bit unfair to put anyone on the spot but in the absence of discussion with a rationale sure why not. Elaborate too.

Do you have and issue with or dislike political or cultural liberalism?
Do you dislike marxism/communism (why would be interesting albeit not a yes or no question)?
Have you been a mamber of or would joing a trade union?
Would you see the problems facing Irish society rooted in issues such as immigration?
Do you think the university education should be focused, rather than broad and allowing for critical thinking?
Do you think that Irish culture is at risk of being diluted or destroyed?
Do you see liberalism as eroding eg family values?
Do you feel that women should fulfill the roles of raising a family, being predominantly stay at home mothers?
Do you consider there to be a class system in Ireland and if so is it a bad think? eg an educated elite
Do you see Irish people in any way superior to other communities in Ireland, say immigrants.
Do you think that the social safety net of the state should be removed?
Is a nations military important and by extension should all people be in some way trained or integrated in to national military.
Do you find military pomp and ceremony appealing?
Would you find a charismatic political leader appealing even if or especially if they dont play by the rules? Is a strong leader as or more important than a strong government?
Do you think the end justifies the means in terms of politics and providing for a people?

Most importantly!!!
Would you vote for Conor McGregor for president if he was nominated?......

I certainly wouldn't vote for McGregor, for one thing he is an annoying ******. I think Maria Steen should be on the ballot paper to give Irish People a real choice and not just establishment lackeys.

I was a member of a trade union ~ A corrupt ( very corrupt ) trade union in the construction industry.

I am an Irish Republican / Irish Nationalist. Many of my extended family were in the IRA all the way back to the Irish War of partial independence. And, in the IRA of the recent troubles and on to some of the IRA's that split from PIRA.

The Irish People have the right to take up arms, if and when they choose to do so, as they always have had that right.

I dislike Communists because they kill so many People, and I dislike the extreme right for the same reason.

I don't think that students in, school / university, should know the politics of the their teachers, or anything about their teachers sexual preferences, hardly too much to ask !

Obviously the culture of a Country can be affected by mass immigration ~ See Ireland with regard to the plantations in history which was mass immigration ( obviously )

A Woman should be able to afford to stay at home and raise a family if she chooses to do so, rather than be forced out to work, if / when, she does Not want to do so ! ( hardly a controversial opinion )

I have no interest in military pomp and ceremony.

I would liked to have seen how Michael Collins would have got on as an Irish Leader if he had lived ( rather foolish not to keep driving through that ambush when the way was clear to do so )

"Nothing can alter the truth of it. Ireland belongs to the Irish.” - Pádraig Pearse. An Eagraíocht na An Túath na Éire. Éire do an Éireannaigh.

How quickly we have forgotten Irish history.