Who was talking about choosing clubs?Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Surely we're allowed to talk about the merits of potential contenders for future league teams? That doesn't mean we're picking them, like the teams in a school playground.
Are you the self-appointed pyramid police now?
The club's crest still features the notorious 7 towers of the old estate, which are long gone now. They should consider updating it to add in their new found rare plant, instead of clinging to a part of the area's history that everyone was very happy to see erased
The FAI.
You're allowed to talk about whatever you like. Just as others should be permitted to express the opinion that such talk may be misplaced - in this case by concentrating on the location of candidate clubs, rather than their inherent strengths - support, finances, facilities, infrastructure and playing standard.
"Police"? I prefer Pharaoh myself.Are you the self-appointed pyramid police now?
A MOTION calling for the creation of a League of Ireland team in Clare has been passed by Clare County Council. I don't think the Clare County Council will be helping with any funding. Seems more at facilitating discussion!
Their best bet anyway is probably to take the youth league approach.
https://foot.ie/forums/117-Kerry-FC
A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
Or do their own local audit and decde on which club is best suited to represent the region. That local superclub can sign all the best locals and build and in time if they have some success they will be established as a senior club for all. A Thurles or Nenagh side in the mix will add another aspect.
Not sure where to put stuff related to summer season/summer calendar changes but the Cork Business have announced a shortened 2025 season to prepare for a switch to a summer league in 2026:
https://corkbusinessleague.ie/2025/0...-short-season/
It's these types of leagues that we need to get rid of
What harm do they do? At least they're on board with the switch to Summer football.
A business league by its nature is not going to be ambitious about joining the LOI and being a core part of the pyramid, and is unliekly to be having young kids etc. So just let them do their own thing by themselves. The more people playing football the better.
Absolutely agree, the more people that play, the better.
Three different league systems in a relatively small area however seems like nonsense to me. If they were somehow tiered I would understand but they're completely separate. All the FA's in the country could be whittled down to a dozen or so. Such waste, when you think of all the admistration roles and expenses with each district association.
But business leagues are usually completely separate, stand alone entities. So they don't complicate anything, and the teams involved would be extremely unlikely to join a normal competitive league structure as that's just not what business football is all about. Let them play FFS.
I mistakenly assumed they were affiliated with the FAI. If they're completely separate from the rest then fair enough. As I said I'm all for participation, from kick abouts to astro leagues and beyond
the Cork Business League is absolutely affiliated with the FAI
agreed that it's a nonsense to have so many different league systems in a country as small as ours
Affiiiation with the FAI is irrelevant thoguh. I'm not sure if you understand what a business league is, but it's usually a bunch of solicitors or accountants running around after a ball against other solicitors, accountants, factories etc. These are not clubs who will have any interest in joining the LOI pyramid, having academies, developing youth, selling players etc. That's just not what it's all about.
I played in a business league in England. I'd never have played for a 'proper' team, as I just wasn't good enough. And I'd no interest in playing against teams of angry 18yr olds taking it all far too seriously either. So if there hadn't been that Business League then I wouldn't have played football at all.
You may as well say it's ridiculous having Social Hurling teams alongside regular hurling leagues. They're very different animals. If you try to scrap it then the teams will just go off and run the leagues anyway unaffiliated to the FAI. So just let them play ball and stop being a killjoy FFS. Sport is for all.
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I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be allowed play football. I've said this in my two previous posts.
If they're affiliated to the FAI, then they have voting rights which determines the direction that football goes
To be honest once a 3rd tier is established it'll make it much easier to fix up our football ladder, and a business league still has a place in that (but very much towards the bottom).
Until recently, Junior football in Cork had the Munster Junior League, Cork AUL, West Cork League, East Cork-West Waterford (now defunct) and Cork Business League.
If and when a 3rd tier is established, hopefully we can have leagues below that branch off of it.
So something like Munster Senior League-> North & South Munster Leagues-> Cork County League-> after that some regionalisation within Cork to reduce costs and maintain rivalries.
So perhaps City, North, East and West Cork leagues, with the business league sitting along a similar level (although likely being weaker) and their Champions having the option to compete in playoffs to be promoted to the County league.
Now there's a good chance they wouldn't be bothered, but I don't see any issues with connecting them to the ladder and giving the option, they'd still have to prove their ability on the field.
Au contraire, the league is so well organised and progressive, it's of the kind we need to replicate.
But I take your point on face value, and that of others, that it should moved to an appropriate level on the pyramid and not on the same level as County Leagues for Galway, Meath, Waterford and Kildare. Keeping it in the pyramid might mean it produces the next PSV or Bayer Leverkusen?
I think this is a great suggestion and one I'd like to see implemented myself. Given the Munster Senior League is just a three division Cork league, I'd personally limit it to one division and call the next two the Cork County League. Then have play-offs between all county winners to get promoted (or invites based on infra, fans, academies if you can guarantee impartiality).
My only concern is the reason why the non-Cork counties left in the first place. Was it travel costs, perceived bias, too high a standard... Anyone remember why?
Not exactly where to put this, up worrying rumours about the FAI not going through with the calendar year.
https://www.the42.ie/fai-aligned-cal...73848-Jul2025/
Not sure what the mechanism for enforcing it would be. Withdraw funding, accreditation, insurance? For the FAI to hold a vote, then ignore it, would be ridiculous. So maybe not a surprise.
We're such a backwards country when it comes to football.
Well f the tail keeps wagging the dog then its time for the league to embrace the closed shop and for the FAI to direct all capital funding toward the senior game. May not happen but the FAI can make it policy to focus on infrastructure. Its less about dictating when leagues play as much as when transfer windows are for those who want to remain outside of the pyramid. Its a power play thats taking us backwards to when senior clubs had a tiny say in things. Maybe time to seriously consider going it alone with a major focus on youth under a LoI umbrella.
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