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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    67 total applications will be whittled down to 20 clubs who will enter the League of Ireland across the new Tier 3 North and South divisions.

    Based on the article above the following criteria seems to be what the FAI will be looking at when considering teams for this new structure.


    The FAI criteria will come down to,

    Location,
    Facilities,
    Budget,
    Governance,
    Catchment area,
    Covered and uncovered stands,
    Seating arrangement,
    Floodlighting,
    Car parking space,
    Train station,
    Signage,
    Competitiveness.
    Seen in article that Club Kildare are putting in a bid too. Where are they based? Didnt realise that Martin Russell is mgr of Newbridge Town considering his loi pedigree!
    Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    The FAI criteria will come down to,

    Location,
    Facilities,
    Budget,
    Governance,
    Catchment area,
    Covered and uncovered stands,
    Seating arrangement,
    Floodlighting,
    Car parking space,
    Train station,
    Signage,
    Competitiveness.
    Based on that, would any of the current First Division clubs qualify? 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    Seen in article that Club Kildare are putting in a bid too. Where are they based? Didnt realise that Martin Russell is mgr of Newbridge Town considering his loi pedigree!
    https://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/k...rid-49857.html

    The club currently play their academy games at FBD Park located on the grounds of the Killashee hotel and will play their senior games there in 2026 as they believe the facilities there would be sufficient for the third tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    https://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/k...rid-49857.html

    The club currently play their academy games at FBD Park located on the grounds of the Killashee hotel and will play their senior games there in 2026 as they believe the facilities there would be sufficient for the third tier.
    There's something I don't understand about this. Fair play to them, they appear to have a very good Youth set-up etc, but then they say:
    "McNally believes it is important that Klub Kildare has a senior side as it will give their young players a pathway to senior football."
    (By "senior" football may I assume he means adult football i.e. age rather than level?)

    Anyhow, what has been stopping them from establishing their own adult team(s), entering the local Kildare & District League (or whatever), then working their way up to be able to compete in the LSL?

    For such a process would surely provide a much stronger platform from which to jump up to a 3rd tier and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    There's something I don't understand about this. Fair play to them, they appear to have a very good Youth set-up etc, but then they say:
    "McNally believes it is important that Klub Kildare has a senior side as it will give their young players a pathway to senior football."
    (By "senior" football may I assume he means adult football i.e. age rather than level?)

    Anyhow, what has been stopping them from establishing their own adult team(s), entering the local Kildare & District League (or whatever), then working their way up to be able to compete in the LSL?

    For such a process would surely provide a much stronger platform from which to jump up to a 3rd tier and beyond.
    Presumably by senior football he means literally senior football? Ronseal stuff. Hence wanting to join a senior tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Presumably by senior football he means literally senior football? Ronseal stuff. Hence wanting to join a senior tier.
    So by "presuming" you're not certain either? For the reason I didn't automatically assume was because in ROI* football, I've heard "Senior" used to mean Adult football and "Junior" to denote Youth.

    Anyhow, it doesn't really matter, I'll accept your interpretation.

    Though the route I was suggesting (i.e. via LSL) doesn't preclude rising to Senior/Top Tier football. And while it would entail a longer journey, it should mean that they're better equipped to compete when they do get there. Which one might have thought they of all clubs might appreciate, following the example of the ill-fated Kildare County?

    Or maybe they're now just trying to avoid being left behind by Newbridge Town and their plans?


    * - In NI, Senior always reflects the playing standard i.e. top tiers, and Junior the bottom tiers, with Intermediate in between.
    Last edited by EalingGreen; 18/06/2025 at 10:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobhlad View Post
    Based on that, would any of the current First Division clubs qualify? ������
    Yes m8, all of them maybe UCD would struggle with the catchment area, but its facilities would persuade the FAI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    There's something I don't understand about this. Fair play to them, they appear to have a very good Youth set-up etc, but then they say:
    "McNally believes it is important that Klub Kildare has a senior side as it will give their young players a pathway to senior football."
    (By "senior" football may I assume he means adult football i.e. age rather than level?)

    Anyhow, what has been stopping them from establishing their own adult team(s), entering the local Kildare & District League (or whatever), then working their way up to be able to compete in the LSL?

    For such a process would surely provide a much stronger platform from which to jump up to a 3rd tier and beyond.
    Good point, post that idea to Club Kildare for further consideration!

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    Newbridge Town do play in the LSL so i he definitly means LOI level.
    They are in the 5th division (or were last season anyway) on Saturday so fair to say they will need a bit of strengthening

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Newbridge Town do play in the LSL so i he definitly means LOI level.
    They are in the 5th division (or were last season anyway) on Saturday so fair to say they will need a bit of strengthening
    That's their reserve team. Their first team played in the third division in the intermediate section

    But to the broader point, having an LSL team prepares you for senior football in the same way that entering Miss World prepares you for the Indy 500

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    Looks good for Newbridge Town

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnsie View Post

    But to the broader point, having an LSL team prepares you for senior football in the same way that entering Miss World prepares you for the Indy 500
    And playing Youth football prepares you better?

    Anyhow, why not have both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    And playing Youth football prepares you better?

    Anyhow, why not have both?
    I was going to reply saying, LSL doesn't really prepare eyou for playing LOI 1st division, particularly if you're not playing top level LSL, and then I remembered what these thread is about and it reminded me why the 3rd tier is so badly needed.

    The jump between LSL (I'm not counting MSL as a proper Senior League as it's just a Cork League) or any of our Junior Leagues is massive.
    However the 3rd tier will likely be a significant step down below LSL, while still being above that standard.
    It will bridge the gap perfectly and allow us to create a proper pyramid and structure as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    There's something I don't understand about this. Fair play to them, they appear to have a very good Youth set-up etc, but then they say:
    "McNally believes it is important that Klub Kildare has a senior side as it will give their young players a pathway to senior football."
    (By "senior" football may I assume he means adult football i.e. age rather than level?)

    Anyhow, what has been stopping them from establishing their own adult team(s), entering the local Kildare & District League (or whatever), then working their way up to be able to compete in the LSL?

    For such a process would surely provide a much stronger platform from which to jump up to a 3rd tier and beyond.
    One drawback is they wouldn't be able to call upon players from their loi underage teams to play for the Senior team without a transfer, while other clubs can draw from their U18 sides seamlessly.

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    Looking at the potential list of teams that have been mentioned through various social media outlets and are now part of the FAI's process to accept 20 teams.

    I have created a possible location of these teams,

    Leinster
    Dublin - 6 Clubs
    Kildare - 1 Club
    Carlow/Kilkenny - 1 Club
    Kildare - 1 Club

    Munster
    Cork - 2 Clubs
    Limerick - 2 Clubs
    Tipperary - 2 Clubs
    Waterford - 1 Club

    Connaught
    Galway - 2 Clubs
    Mayo - 1 Club

    Ulster
    Donegal - 1 Club

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    I thought there were two Kildare clubs interested.
    In Ulster, are Monaghan not interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Looking at the potential list of teams that have been mentioned through various social media outlets and are now part of the FAI's process to accept 20 teams.

    I have created a possible location of these teams,

    Leinster
    Dublin - 6 Clubs
    Kildare - 1 Club
    Carlow/Kilkenny - 1 Club
    Kildare - 1 Club

    Munster
    Cork - 2 Clubs
    Limerick - 2 Clubs
    Tipperary - 2 Clubs
    Waterford - 1 Club

    Connaught
    Galway - 2 Clubs
    Mayo - 1 Club

    Ulster
    Donegal - 1 Club
    Assuming your suggestions are close to the mark, where might they draw the line between a 10 x team Northern Division and a 10 x team Southern Division?

    P.S. Your second reference to Kildare - assume you meant some other county?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Assuming your suggestions are close to the mark, where might they draw the line between a 10 x team Northern Division and a 10 x team Southern Division?

    P.S. Your second reference to Kildare - assume you meant some other county?
    From that list it would presumably be Dublin, Kildare, Donegal and Mayo in the North. Though the list does have Kildare down twice, so preumably that's in error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckett View Post
    In Ulster, are Monaghan not interested?
    Assuming you mean United, according to this (February) they were interested:
    https://www.northernsound.ie/sport/m...-league-254245

    However seemingly not selected (May):
    https://www.northernsound.ie/sport/m...running-258552

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Assuming your suggestions are close to the mark, where might they draw the line between a 10 x team Northern Division and a 10 x team Southern Division?

    P.S. Your second reference to Kildare - assume you meant some other county?
    Traditionally, based on the A Championship and Academy leagues, the FAI tend to draw a line between Dublin and Galway when allocating teams to divisions, moving more in Dublin when necessary to achieve an even split.

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