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    Quote Originally Posted by legendz View Post
    The suggested National League sounds more like a potential Fourth Tier! Seems a backward step to invite clubs who have not built their academy structures. Maybe that will be part of the licencing for promotion to the First Division.
    Progressive first teams with academy structures and progressive second teams e.g. Shamrock Rovers could potentially suit a Second Division.
    If a 3rd Tier was to come in, and you were hoping to bring in regional teams, you will probably need a way to start grading academies. You cant have so many 'elite' academies, and you have to be weary to diluting LOI underage. If you are expanding LOI to new clubs, there probably needs to be a new stream of a underage competition (lets say an LOI B), rather than just expanding the current set-up.

    Might help the gap between established LOI set-ups and new teams wanting to enter LOI.

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    Have the FAI actually confirmed that LoI second teams can take part?
    Even at this early stage of Kerry's development, following some of the signings in the off season, I'd like to see Kerry consider a second team for the local players coming through the academy. Limerick FC and Finn Harps were proactive in fielding second teams in the A Championship, despite not being obliged to do so when in the First Division.
    https://foot.ie/forums/117-Kerry-FC
    A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
    Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.

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    Can't imagine Limerick FC being approved, given the hammerings their underage sides have been getting, but they're reportedly applying:

    https://leagueofirelandtalk.wordpres...tional-league/

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    So do we have a list of clubs which have stated that they will be applying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    So do we have a list of clubs which have stated that they will be applying?
    If you look back over previous posts you will see numerous clubs mentioned. You can bet that many of them have been added because of their potential. I reckon too, that fans with insider contacts have added these names to see the response and reaction.

    You could choose several clubs names from the list who have definitely made inquiries to the FAI and have also applied!

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    So "No" is the answer then?

    Betting that clubs have been mentioned for their potential isn't the same as them stating they'll be applying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    So "No" is the answer then?

    Betting that clubs have been mentioned for their potential isn't the same as them stating they'll be applying.
    From what I have read Mayo FC have applied and a junior Galway club, CK United and Kildare and 2/3 from the LSL in the Leinster region. Limerick FC have applied. 1 club in the Donegal area and UCC have shown interest.

    As usual there are rumours and names being put around, which is great as I believe there is a huge interest.

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    Any chance of a mid to south Wicklow Team? I’ve seen Arklow mentioned and also Gorey Rangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    Any chance of a mid to south Wicklow Team? I’ve seen Arklow mentioned and also Gorey Rangers.
    Do we really need a third Wicklow team?

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    The deadline has past. How quickly will things move with a short season expected in 12-15 months ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    Do we really need a third Wicklow team?
    Bray and Rovers mean nothing in these parts of the garden of Ireland.

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    The one club we definitively know has applied is St Francis:

    https://www.extratime.com/articles/3...nd-third-tier/

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    “The process at the moment is only in the ‘expressions of interest’ stage.
    "All it is right now is an exploratory stage from the FAI, finding out what clubs are interested, and then from there they will let us know what the requirements are.”

    The key detail I took from reading the article earlier. I suppose the National League as the Third Tier will be the only show in town for a few years but a tier between the First Division and National League that is more LoI ready than amateur should be high on the agenda. Connecting the National League to regional leagues then will be interesting to see how they crack that nut.
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    I was only in Baldonnell once but would love to see St Francis back in even if its the third tier. Probably best thing they could introduce is promotion/relegation between 2nd tier & 3rd tier as you only rest on your laurels if finances arent there.
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    67 applications for the new third tier, with Shamrock Rovers the only LOI side who expressed an interest in a B team.

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...387752908.html

    Delegates were told that there have been 67 applications for the new third tier which had been originally styled as another level for the League of Ireland but will effectively function as the top level of the amateur game with no plans for professional contracts to be permitted.It’s believed there is a good regional spread of applications with the exception of parts of Connacht and Ulster; this will raise questions about how to manage the proposed geographical split into a north and south division.

    Shamrock Rovers want to bring back their ‘B’ team to compete in the new initiative but other LOI sides have not expressed an interest.
    It remains to be seen if their application will be successful if the league is going to be completely amateur; there are details to be worked out around how the third tier will align with the LOI but there are plans for promotion and relegation to exist between the various components of the pyramid.
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    lack of interest in connacht ulster is a issue fir regionalisation

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    B teams should be included from all PD teams with conditions attached so first team players cant feature. The gap between 20s + senior is huge, scrapping 20s and having young lads play men straight out of 17s would be great for them.

    Im shocked at the amount of interest from amateur sides tbh. Will grounds have to meet certain standards? Costs of running a club are big, I'd love to see the economics of it.

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    If Premier clubs don't want to field a B team, I think that's their call in fairness.

    67 applicants is mental stuff if true. Be interesting to see how many keep up their interest as details come out. How the third tier aligns with the rest of the LoI seems a pretty basic thing not to have worked out yet; you wonder what else is to be decided, and are the 67 clubs kind of subscribing to updates rather than formally ready to apply

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