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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I, for one, would hope that I, or any member of my family, would also be convicted of 34 counts of fraud, if I, or any member of my family, had committed 34 counts of fraud.

    The charges were all related to payments to a porn star to keep quiet about their affair, so it wouldn't come out during his first campaign. that he falsified to make it look like a campaign payment.
    from https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65181178

    He was convicted by a jury of his peers, same as everyone else who faces justice.
    Sunday night broadcast to a national audience in America. Mark Levin explains the whole 34 counts of fraud in detail and how the prosecutor and judge were way out of their lanes in doing what they did. You should watch the first 8 minutes of this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F4EC0Q-Ogo

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    Why? Does it say he wasn't convicted of 34 counts of fraud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Why? Does it say he wasn't convicted of 34 counts of fraud?
    What it says is the prosecutor and judge had no jurisdiction to take the case to court. The charges against Trump were federal charges, not state. And both of these men knew this but went ahead and prosecuted him anyway. What does that say about them? And they are making a complete mockery of the justice system. It will likely end up in the supreme court because Bragg took one charge, bogus as it was, and gave us 34 different varieties of it - something which apparently has not been done before according to legal people in New York. Levin also notes that those media outlets jumping all over Trump during this case, have all entered into non-disclosure agreements multiple times themselves. Check out the video - he explains things better than I ever could.

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    Does it say that he was found guilty?
    Last edited by tetsujin1979; 06/01/2025 at 10:48 PM.
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    "This video has been removed by the uploader"

    Compelling evidence alright

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    Aw man, I was totally going to watch that

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    Mark Levin's wiki page is hardly encouraging -

    A 2016 study which sought to measure incendiary discourse on talk radio and TV found that Levin scored highest on its measure of "outrage". The study looked at 10 prominent radio and television programs, known for incendiary discourse on political matters, and scored content on the basis of whether it used "emotional display", "misrepresentative exaggeration", "mockery", "conflagration", "slippery slope", "insulting" or "obscene language", and other factors, finding that Levin was the radio host who engaged in the most outrage. The study found that he utilized "outrage speech or behavior at a rate of more than one instance per minute."[2] In How Democracies Die, Harvard University political scientists Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky write that Mark Levin was among the popular right-wing talk radio hosts who "helped to legitimate the use of uncivil discourse" in American politics, and contribute to the erosion of democratic norms.[71] According to Politico, Levin has a "penchant for hysteria."[72]

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    "This video has been removed by the uploader"

    Compelling evidence alright
    Who removed it? Not me

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Does it say that he was found guilty?
    Found guilty? By whom? By what judicial system? By what standard of justice when it can be trashed like that. At that rate they might as well charge you in their kangaroo court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Found guilty? By whom? By what judicial system? By what standard of justice when it can be trashed like that. At that rate they might as well charge you in their kangaroo court.
    Excellent! First, I'll commit 34 counts of fraud, then they can convict me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Who removed it? Not me
    Are you seriously trying to make a case around a non-existent video clip?!

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    It feels like we’re living in a sim sometimes when things like this have become normalised,this is the President of the United States just tweeting out that he’s sending his son to look at another country’s territory before they take it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Excellent! First, I'll commit 34 counts of fraud, then they can convict me.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Are you seriously trying to make a case around a non-existent video clip?!
    Just checked the link I posted and you are right it has been taken down by YT.
    I watched it on Sunday night and again last night before posting. Fox News link below if you want to watch it.

    https://www.foxnews.com/video/636672...17dd49b52b6c13

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post


    It feels like we’re living in a sim sometimes when things like this have become normalised,this is the President of the United States just tweeting out that he’s sending his son to look at another country’s territory before they take it !

    It does feel strange alright, if I'm honest.

    The Canada, Greenland and Panama Canal stories were seen as a running joke for the last couple of weeks here in America (Canada is not going to become the 51st state and no one in either country expects it to). The Canada story was just a throw-away comment by Trump who is likely trying to appeal to those Canadians who favour him over Trudeau whom they detest. But joking aside I think Trump would love to be able to depend on Canada to allow access for the US military to the northern portion of that country. And if he is looking to make an American presence felt in Greenland, then it is obvious there is something afoot in that part of the world. The common denominator is geography - it is obvious that if Trump is talking about Greenland and Canada he sees a threat to America from China and possibly Russia.

    It has been reported that China and Russia have designs on Greenland (for minerals and as a strategic base) and Trump is likely trying to beat them to the punch. What does the future hold for the 55,000 population of Greenland if all 3 superpowers are making plans for their country, and what will Denmark be able to do to stop any expansionist plans? Trump is also concerned about China's growing presence in South America and the Panama Canal is seen as a very important passageway for shipping. America built it and gave the canal to the Panamanians as a "gift" apparently under Jimmy Carter. So the fact that the Chinese are elbowing their way into that area is concerning for America.

    Hopefully Greenland can remain with the natives of that country and Canada remain the property of the people of Canada, while the Panamanians uphold their part of the agreement about the Canal, if there was one. It is a situation that bears watching.

    How is this being perceived in Ireland?

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    Maybe Donald Trump will take Ireland as well ? !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    What?
    Well they can hardly convict me of 34 counts of fraud if I haven't committed 34 counts of fraud, can they? They don't give Nobel prizes for "Attempted" Chemistry
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    It does feel strange alright, if I'm honest.

    The Canada, Greenland and Panama Canal stories were seen as a running joke for the last couple of weeks here in America (Canada is not going to become the 51st state and no one in either country expects it to). The Canada story was just a throw-away comment by Trump who is likely trying to appeal to those Canadians who favour him over Trudeau whom they detest. But joking aside I think Trump would love to be able to depend on Canada to allow access for the US military to the northern portion of that country. And if he is looking to make an American presence felt in Greenland, then it is obvious there is something afoot in that part of the world. The common denominator is geography - it is obvious that if Trump is talking about Greenland and Canada he sees a threat to America from China and possibly Russia.

    It has been reported that China and Russia have designs on Greenland (for minerals and as a strategic base) and Trump is likely trying to beat them to the punch. What does the future hold for the 55,000 population of Greenland if all 3 superpowers are making plans for their country, and what will Denmark be able to do to stop any expansionist plans? Trump is also concerned about China's growing presence in South America and the Panama Canal is seen as a very important passageway for shipping. America built it and gave the canal to the Panamanians as a "gift" apparently under Jimmy Carter. So the fact that the Chinese are elbowing their way into that area is concerning for America.

    Hopefully Greenland can remain with the natives of that country and Canada remain the property of the people of Canada, while the Panamanians uphold their part of the agreement about the Canal, if there was one. It is a situation that bears watching.

    How is this being perceived in Ireland?
    That Trump should probably settle his tax evasion in Panama before he decides to invade
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...filing-2005079
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Maybe Donald Trump will take Ireland as well ? !
    Paddy's green shamrock shore? No that will always be Irish.
    But on a more serious note the Greenland and Panama Canal stories are gaining traction this morning. And apparently military force will be used to remove the Chinese from Panama because according to Trump they have no business running the Canal when it was something built for the Panamanians by America. Greenland's days are numbered apparently. There will be a three way struggle over that land because China, who already possesses the lions share of precious minerals in the world, is looking to annex Greenland as well. And Russia also needs those minerals. That would leave America completely dependent on China for many things we use in our daily lives today.
    That is what is being reported this morning for what it's worth.

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    France to Trump: EU won’t let you invade Greenland – POLITICO

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