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    The only surprise is that some people are still surprised. His advisors should be making it clear that if there's no prospect of minutes or a loan move there's no prospect of him signing a contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    That is no surprise and to be fair jose has been more than clear that troy parrot will not be playing
    “It's possible that he is selected for the game.”

    Yes, crystal clear.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The only surprise is that some people are still surprised. His advisors should be making it clear that if there's no prospect of minutes or a loan move there's no prospect of him signing a contract.
    Call me old fashioned but a 17 year old at the Champions League finalists might be better served keeping their head down neck wound in and keep grafting, not advising their representatives to push for a move or threatening to not sign a contract.

    Parrott got game time against Colchester and was poor as Spurs were embarrassed and neither Pochettino or Mourinho, two top managers have seen enough to give him much more.

    Keep training keep trying keep playing if you are good enough and apply yourself in the right way the chance will come.

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    There's sense in that alright but he's hardly playing any football at all, not even for the Under 23s. Add that to a manager with a track record of ignoring young up and coming players and there's a lot to be concerned about, even though he is just 17 (18 in a few days time).

    It's obvious that there is no route to meaningful first team football for him at Spurs at the moment. I find it mystifying though that they won't let him go out on loan for a few months for game time. Somewhere like QPR, who are about to lose Nahki Wells and need a forward in, would be a great short term move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCWA View Post
    Call me old fashioned but a 17 year old at the Champions League finalists might be better served keeping their head down neck wound in and keep grafting, not advising their representatives to push for a move or threatening to not sign a contract.

    Parrott got game time against Colchester and was poor as Spurs were embarrassed and neither Pochettino or Mourinho, two top managers have seen enough to give him much more.

    Keep training keep trying keep playing if you are good enough and apply yourself in the right way the chance will come.
    I couldn't agree Parrott was poor against Colchester, in his first-ever senior football game at the age of 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    I couldn't agree Parrott was poor against Colchester, in his first-ever senior football game at the age of 17.
    Perhaps a tad harsh there I will accept that but he certainly done nothing against League two opposition to suggest he is ready for Premier League football (obviously neither Poch or Mourinho have seen it either) and for a manager who’s sole focus is results and try to climb back into the top 4 a proven experienced and in Son at least world class square-ish peg in a round hole is a better option.

    I just don’t think we have much ground for complaint with Spurs. The player seems content, the club are happy with him and notions of possibly turning down a contract at club at that level as a 17 year old I can’t fathom at all.

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    Linked with a load to Charlton in the daily mail:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Athletic.html

    Am not a big reader of same so unsure how reliable/informed or otherwise their football news/rumours are.

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    Has been linked on and off with Charlton, who are interested. Idah been linked with Charlton as well. Key barrier is whether Spurs willing to let him leave or not. He turns 18 after the transfer window which is awkward, as can’t sign new long term deal until then.

    Don’t think Mourinho will allow him leave, perhaps will depend on what they bring in, which is nothing so far. After all, Mourinho has him in a “specialized programme” to ready him for first team football, big opportunities await themselves starting from the FA cup replay vs Southampton....

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    He turns 18 after the transfer window which is awkward, as can’t sign new long term deal until then.


    Why? he has already sign a pro contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    He turns 18 after the transfer window which is awkward, as can’t sign new long term deal until then.


    Why? he has already sign a pro contract
    A game of cat and mouse until then. Spurs potentially more reluctant to loan him in case he “lights things up” (or even with Spurs themselves if he played first team prior to 18) and he returns to spurs in summer with the world at his feet and only 12 months left on his contract; and from the players standpoint, he can’t sign before the transfer window with stipulations included such as a loan move this week. Obviously a fear from player is that he gets left in no man’s land until next summer once he signs the long term contract after transfer window closes. That’s my take on it anyways.

    Either way, I remain optimistic. Parrott will be okay, his talent will shine through. Mourinho taking things nice a slowly with him, optimizing him before unleashing him onto the premier league stage...

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    https://www.footballinsider247.com/e...0-green-light/

    Linked with QPR here, be a good move for him

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    Well, I guess if Parrott goes to Charlton or QPR and hits the ground running, then I can forgive Mourinho - it's probably too late for him to feature in the play-offs anyway, so might as well get him some first-team football so he's ready to step up when Kenny takes over from Mick

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    Spurs fan here.
    He hasn't a chance of progressing at Spurs and he just needs to look across the dressing room at Kyle Walker Peters to look at what can happen talented young players at Spurs.

    Walker Peters was a heavily touted right back that won the U20 World Cup with England playing out of position at left back because he was seen as that good.
    But at 19 Spurs stopped playing him in any underage games. Instead he travelled with the senior squad.
    He is now 22 and hasn't played regularly for 3 seasons. A few minutes here and there. He has completely regressed as player. He was much better at 19 than he is now.

    There have been situations were family members of young players have gone into Spurs to beg they that be allowed to be loaned out.

    This is the trap for Parrott if he signs a long term deal next week. Mourinho has talked about him being ready in 3 years! Parrott has only played 1 game (u18 FA youth Cup) in 8 weeks. He is on the Walker Peters route. How can he ever be match fit surviving on only training.

    The plan from Spurs and Mourinho was the debut and whole theatre of giving him a the matchday ball would be enough to get him to sign a contract. Fool him into thinking he was on the verge of something. But Kane's injury has shown up how Mourinho really sees him.

    Spurs will no doubt sign a new striker before Friday. Spurs have to register their squad for the champions knock out rounds on 3 February 2020 (the day before Parrott turns 18). Parrott will lose his place in the squad to fit on one of Vorm, Bergwijn and whoever the new striker will be.

    I would be shocked if he signed a long term contract. Either he is being badly advised or he has that much confidence in himself that he can break through against all the evidence that it's nearly impossible under Mourinho and Spurs.

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    Interesting post. Who's to blame though? Obviously Pochettino, and Pochettino only, can be blamed (if that's the right word, maybe he just wasn't as good as the alternatives) for not playing Walker Peters? Whose fault is it that he didn't play with the U23's or go out on loan? Is it some sort of club policy? Or was it just a case of Poch not wanting to use or lose him?

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    This is gonna sound ridiculous but it's significant Troy Parrott is back wearing white sock in Spurs training today.
    When Spurs youth team players are training with the first team they are made continue to wear blue youth team socks.
    It's a sign of status within the squad.
    Back on the 29th November Mourinho promoted 3 players Tanganga, Skipp and Parrott to wearing white socks in training. https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/11/2...d-two-spurs-t/
    But for the last two weeks Parrott has been seen training in youth team blue socks again amid talk of him not signing a contract.
    But today with the talk of him making a deal that he would be allowed to go out on loan in exchange for signing a new contract he is pictures back wearing senior team white socks.

    I expect the loan move to QPR or Charlton is in the offing

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    Quote Originally Posted by eekers View Post
    This is gonna sound ridiculous but it's significant Troy Parrott is back wearing white sock in Spurs training today.
    When Spurs youth team players are training with the first team they are made continue to wear blue youth team socks.
    It's a sign of status within the squad.
    Back on the 29th November Mourinho promoted 3 players Tanganga, Skipp and Parrott to wearing white socks in training. https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/11/2...d-two-spurs-t/
    But for the last two weeks Parrott has been seen training in youth team blue socks again amid talk of him not signing a contract.
    But today with the talk of him making a deal that he would be allowed to go out on loan in exchange for signing a new contract he is pictures back wearing senior team white socks.

    I expect the loan move to QPR or Charlton is in the offing
    Don’t let Leo Varadkar get word of this . He’ll surely put his foot in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eekers View Post
    Spurs fan here.
    He hasn't a chance of progressing at Spurs and he just needs to look across the dressing room at Kyle Walker Peters to look at what can happen talented young players at Spurs.

    Walker Peters was a heavily touted right back that won the U20 World Cup with England playing out of position at left back because he was seen as that good.
    But at 19 Spurs stopped playing him in any underage games. Instead he travelled with the senior squad.
    He is now 22 and hasn't played regularly for 3 seasons. A few minutes here and there. He has completely regressed as player. He was much better at 19 than he is now.

    There have been situations were family members of young players have gone into Spurs to beg they that be allowed to be loaned out.

    This is the trap for Parrott if he signs a long term deal next week. Mourinho has talked about him being ready in 3 years! Parrott has only played 1 game (u18 FA youth Cup) in 8 weeks. He is on the Walker Peters route. How can he ever be match fit surviving on only training.

    The plan from Spurs and Mourinho was the debut and whole theatre of giving him a the matchday ball would be enough to get him to sign a contract. Fool him into thinking he was on the verge of something. But Kane's injury has shown up how Mourinho really sees him.

    Spurs will no doubt sign a new striker before Friday. Spurs have to register their squad for the champions knock out rounds on 3 February 2020 (the day before Parrott turns 18). Parrott will lose his place in the squad to fit on one of Vorm, Bergwijn and whoever the new striker will be.

    I would be shocked if he signed a long term contract. Either he is being badly advised or he has that much confidence in himself that he can break through against all the evidence that it's nearly impossible under Mourinho and Spurs.
    I see K WP has gone to Southampton on loan today.

    I suppose Parrot could also look across the dressing room at Winks, Skipp and even Harry Kane, as players who were given a chance to come through there ?

    Granted not by Jose, which could be key in all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eekers View Post

    Walker Peters was a heavily touted right back that won the U20 World Cup with England playing out of position at left back because he was seen as that good.
    But at 19 Spurs stopped playing him in any underage games. Instead he travelled with the senior squad.
    He is now 22 and hasn't played regularly for 3 seasons. A few minutes here and there. He has completely regressed as player. He was much better at 19 than he is now.
    Can't believe he's 22. Still feels like a kid. I remember him making his debut against Newcastle back in 2017 after Kyle Walker had been sold and he looked ready made for the first team. In fact, Nathaniel Clyne had just gotten a serious knee injury at Liverpool and both KWP and Trent Alexander Arnold began the season starting for their respective sides. Two promising young english right-backs, while KWP won man of the match for Spurs, TAA struggled against Watford's physicality. Based on that early season form, most would have thought KWP was the better prospect but Spurs spend £22m on Aurier more or less on deadline day, while Liverpool persevered with Trent.

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    Dutch journalist reporting on his twitter account that Troy Parrot is headed to Ado Den Haag

    https://twitter.com/nealpetersen

    https://twitter.com/nealpetersen/sta...48182922727425

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagger View Post
    Dutch journalist reporting on his twitter account that Troy Parrot is headed to Ado Den Haag

    https://twitter.com/nealpetersen

    https://twitter.com/nealpetersen/sta...48182922727425
    That would be great move, he will defo play, they are screaming for relegation though

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