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    Poor Dundalk with their wafer thin squad.
    Something should be done about that for sure. lol

    I would have more respect for the people running Dundalk then to expect that type of BS from them.
    No chance that is true

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    Don't really see what the problem is. If the clubs are happy with a nine team league, let them off.
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    B teams don't seem to be a problem in Europe so why not here ?
    This is the same type of bullshi* that Cork City faced when they tried to enter a team in the Munster (Cork) Senior League some years ago.
    Met all the criteria but the MSL controlled by the clubs refused City entry.
    Fortunately this time the clubs don't control the the 1st div.
    I wish all LOI clubs could field B teams.

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    When the ten team league was voted on (and it was ridiculously non transparent and sounded as dodgy as hell) the first division clubs did not get a vote.

    Now they have expressed their views on the running of their own division and been ignored. This is beyond farcical. More power to the first division clubs in resisting this, they have been treated with contempt. I'd like to see a bit of transparency around yesterday- who voted what way and why. Nothing is going to improve in Irish Football until there is accountability and transparency around decisions.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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    Its not "their" division.
    It is the first division of the League of Ireland and is subject to the rules put in place for the running of the division.
    If 3 or 4 of the 9 teams are against some other issue in the future do they get to throw their toys out of the pram?
    There is a reason the FAI (or FAI nua) are running the league , its because the clubs couldn't because of exactly this kind of BS from a handful of clubs who have decided they don't like something and are brow beating others into supporting them "unanimously".

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Poor Dundalk with their wafer thin squad.
    Something should be done about that for sure. lol

    I would have more respect for the people running Dundalk then to expect that type of BS from them.
    No chance that is true
    Why wouldnt it be true.

    Why should Rovers be allowed play players who never made the squad for Friday night in the B teams game in the 1st division that weekend, and then back to play A team when they find form etc....

    Its unfair on every club, including Dundalk.

    It should be 2 separate squads or nothing

    P.S Rovers squad is bigger than Dundalks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Its not "their" division.
    It is the first division of the League of Ireland and is subject to the rules put in place for the running of the division.
    If 3 or 4 of the 9 teams are against some other issue in the future do they get to throw their toys out of the pram?
    There is a reason the FAI (or FAI nua) are running the league , its because the clubs couldn't because of exactly this kind of BS from a handful of clubs who have decided they don't like something and are brow beating others into supporting them "unanimously".
    Yes, it's the clubs that didn't get a vote on the change in structure of the league, and that didn't get a say in another change to their division that are doing the brow beating here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Yes, it's the clubs that didn't get a vote on the change in structure of the league, and that didn't get a say in another change to their division that are doing the brow beating here.
    Yes the new and improved FAI

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    Why wouldnt it be true.

    Why should Rovers be allowed play players who never made the squad for Friday night in the B teams game in the 1st division that weekend, and then back to play A team when they find form etc....

    Its unfair on every club, including Dundalk.

    It should be 2 separate squads or nothing

    P.S Rovers squad is bigger than Dundalks!
    More games to prepare for, more drug testing, more travel costs. The last time Rovers played in the first division it was, at best , a costly non -event. Will more than likely be more of the same next season. Can`t understand the faux outrage over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    Why wouldnt it be true.

    Why should Rovers be allowed play players who never made the squad for Friday night in the B teams game in the 1st division that weekend, and then back to play A team when they find form etc....

    Its unfair on every club, including Dundalk.

    It should be 2 separate squads or nothing

    P.S Rovers squad is bigger than Dundalks!
    Because the People who run Dundalk are not small minded begrudge-rs
    Every club can apply to enter a B team if they like
    Max 3 players allowed drop down.
    Yes thats right everyone knows Dundalks squad is way weaker than Rovers and everyone else.
    This is not about the squad , it is about giving the Academy players a further development path.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 08/01/2020 at 4:17 PM.

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    Note that it isn't just the first division clubs opposed to this. I know of a number of premier clubs also. If we can't trust the NLEC to represent what the clubs want, and have made known to them, then we have yet another major problem in the LOI.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Because the People who run Dundalk are not small minded begrudge-rs
    Every club can apply to enter a B team if they like
    Max 3 players allowed drop down.
    Yes thats right everyone knows Dundalks squad is way weaker than Rovers and everyone else.
    This is not about the squad , it is about giving the Academy players a further development path.
    When did I say that, I said Rovers have more players in their squad than Dundalk, after your dig saying "Poor Dundalk with their wafer thin squad"

    This is why you cannot have a debate with you, same with every thread your in.

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    Bloody phone !
    When u said rovers had more players then dundalk I took that to mean u were saying you were at a disadvantage with a smaller squad.
    I was being facetious by saying yes dundalks squad is weaker as no one could believe that,.
    Dundalk have two proper senior pros in every position and no need to worry about rovers.
    I am actually complimenting the people who run your club as they are way above the petty crap coming out from Cabo etc.
    Daniel McDonnell writes a pretty balanced article in the indo this evening on this.

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    It is quite simple for the first division clubs if they are united against rovers b being in the league then make it clear they won’t fulfill fixtures against them and that’s the end of it.

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    We will see i guess.
    I haven't seen one logical argument against it.
    The fairness argument isn't an argument as is it fair that Derry have a bigger budget then Finn harps? No but that's life.
    If the objective of the league is to be fair to cabo we are all in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    We will see i guess.
    I haven't seen one logical argument against it.
    The fairness argument isn't an argument as is it fair that Derry have a bigger budget then Finn harps? No but that's life.
    If the objective of the league is to be fair to cabo we are all in trouble.
    Sure why dont Dundalk play in it too and what ever of or 2nd 11 dont make the match day squad can play with B team the next day to make sure they are match sharp for the next A teams game

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    If they go through the legitimate channels I wouldn't have a problem. How could I?
    I don't think that is the way to do it though better to have a development squad from your academy. But that would be up to dundalk or any other club

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Because the People who run Dundalk are not small minded begrudge-rs
    Every club can apply to enter a B team if they like
    Max 3 players allowed drop down.
    Yes thats right everyone knows Dundalks squad is way weaker than Rovers and everyone else.
    This is not about the squad , it is about giving the Academy players a further development path.
    If this was only about Academy players, there would be no facility for 3 / 4 players to interchange between the premier and first division squads

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    I should have said primarily academy. Same rules as the last time and again open to every club to apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    I should have said primarily academy. Same rules as the last time and again open to every club to apply.
    Dont think it will happen anyway, Drogheda especially are not having it at all

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