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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Easy to criticise McClean for the goal but I think it was Wilson who was out of position. Either way, it was a good goal from their point of view.
    Do you think their goal as well demonstrated why MON went to such lengths in risking Ward at LB ? Because where McClean was standing made him redundant in tracking the run and also, cutting out the passing angle, maybe a specialist LB albeit a lesser player would have positioned himself instinctively better.

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    I think a specialist LB would have covered the gap Wilson left when he was playing the role of a CB caught wide. It was McClean who got turned but Wilson who was caught in no man's land.

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    So what do you fine chaps think the lineup will be? Not what you want, what you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    So what do you fine chaps think the lineup will be? Not what you want, what you think.
    -----------------Randolph-----------------


    Coleman-----O'Shea--------Clark-------Wilson


    Hendrick-----Whelan------McCarthy------Brady

    -------------Hoolahan----------

    -------------Walters------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry crumb View Post
    -----------------Randolph-----------------


    Coleman-----O'Shea--------Clark-------Wilson


    Hendrick-----Whelan------McCarthy------Brady

    -------------Hoolahan----------

    -------------Walters------------------

    Nee
    Yep would be very happy with that line up! Confident that this team can get a result at home against the Bosnians.

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    I can never understand why Hendrick plays on the wing though. He is not a winger. I'd stick McClean there instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    I can never understand why Hendrick plays on the wing though. He is not a winger. I'd stick McClean there instead.
    McClean never impresses when he starts. It's odd. It's like he needs to watch 55 minutes to wind him up.

    If Long is fit (big if?) I think It'll be back to the 4-1-2-1-2 (Diamond)

    ----------------- Randolph -----------------
    -- Coleman -- Keogh -- Clark -- Brady --
    -------------------- Whelan ----------------
    --------- McCarthy --- Hendrick ----------
    ----------------- Hoolahan -----------------
    --------------- Walters Long ---------------

    Also. As an international manager, Martin O'Neill is starting to feel like a round peg. We've been through the initial bounce, then the inevitable bit of slippage, but I feel like he is really in the groove now.
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    I'd keep the defence the way it is bar slotting brady back in at left back, but i wouldn't be opposed to jos at left back either. Keogh and Clark played well and deserve to keep their places. in such a case, it may allow Brady's technical ability to come to the fore more.

    I like backtowallsall's team - we all know Whelan's faults but he does bring certain qualities to the team. Moving forward, i'd like to see other options come in, but his ability to stifle superior players could be essential in this game. I feel Wes is going to have a stormer if he is given the opportunities unlike the way Friday panned out.

    The big thing is that we are proactive and take the game to them. I do think they have a goal in them so while we have to be sensible, sitting back for the 0-0 will do us no favours. It would play into Pjanic's hands and Dzeko is always capable of a goal as we saw on Friday.

    I'm looking forward to seeing Walters up against that defence. Long may be a good impact sub if he isn't 100 percent to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungle View Post
    I'd keep the defence the way it is bar slotting brady back in at left back, but i wouldn't be opposed to jos at left back either. Keogh and Clark played well and deserve to keep their places. in such a case, it may allow Brady's technical ability to come to the fore more.
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    I'd hate to see JOS at LB. he was never a good left or right back. Now on top of that he's too old. He'd get destroyed. I'd actually rather Clark and Keogh be out centre back than O'Shea.

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    I'd probably pick Keogh and O'Shea at CB and shift Clark to LB. There is a lack of conviction in that selection though. I'm in several minds. We really need someone like Greg Cunningham to step into that position and make himself undroppable. It's been a problem for us since Harte.

    Speaking of which, were Harte and Kelly on Sunday Supplement today? I think they said last week they'd be the special guests.

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    It's not just a matter of who plays at LB but also employ a definite tactic to support the LB when there is a threat, not leave him isolated, otherwise the (dodgy or not) LB becomes a glaring target for any opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I'd probably pick Keogh and O'Shea at CB and shift Clark to LB. There is a lack of conviction in that selection though.
    I would go with this but with plenty of conviction, not because I'd trust it fully but because I think it would definitely be the best option we have, in light of the performances on Friday. Bosnia were at their most dangerous down the right so I really wouldn't see the sense in dropping Brady back there, especially after what he produced at the other end the other night. Clark is a solid, relatively mobile unit, they shouldn't get past him too easily. O'Shea and Keogh combined well for our best defensively display and result in years against Germany so it all pieces together well I think, as long as O'Shea is fully good to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Speaking of which, were Harte and Kelly on Sunday Supplement today? I think they said last week they'd be the special guests.
    I heard McAteer and Kelly were on Goals on Sunday, that's the same thing, right? They were supposed to have been very funny but didn't see it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    I would go with this but with plenty of conviction, not because I'd trust it fully but because I think it would definitely be the best option we have, in light of the performances on Friday. Bosnia were at their most dangerous down the right so I really wouldn't see the sense in dropping Brady back there, especially after what he produced at the other end the other night. Clark is a solid, relatively mobile unit, they shouldn't get past him too easily. O'Shea and Keogh combined well for our best defensively display and result in years against Germany so it all pieces together well I think, as long as O'Shea is fully good to go.
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    Anyone who thinks Clark is a solid and relatively mobile unit, really doesn't know their footie.

    Like Keogh, Clark is an accident waiting to happen.
    Both will cost us games and that's my fear against Bosnia.

    My heart says we will win but my head says a Bosnia win courtesy of a Clark or Keogh howler.

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    Listening to Dan McDonnell on newstalk, really respect this lad's views in comparison to someone like fanning or Dunphy.

    Bloody nervous listening to it. Good points that the biggest thing learned from Friday is that Bosnia finished third for a reason, they certainly aren't anything to be feared, a fresh Walters should offer a more effective threat and that the prospect of long being fit to come on in last 20 mins is worrying Bosnia. Need to make the Aviva a difficult place to play rather than the friendly venue it has been far too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    Anyone who thinks Clark is a solid and relatively mobile unit, really doesn't know their footie.
    Solid unit as in strong and sturdy, not infallible. I mean he's unlikely to be taken to the cleaners the way Ward was and he'd be more defensively minded than Brady. Are you saying he's slow? Not something I've noticed but I'm willing to bow to your superior footie knowledge

    What back four would you go with yourself Doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    Anyone who thinks Clark is a solid and relatively mobile unit, really doesn't know their footie.

    Like Keogh, Clark is an accident waiting to happen.
    Both will cost us games and that's my fear against Bosnia.

    My heart says we will win but my head says a Bosnia win courtesy of a Clark or Keogh howler.
    I know my footie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Solid unit as in strong and sturdy, not infallible. I mean he's unlikely to be taken to the cleaners the way Ward was and he'd be more defensively minded than Brady. Are you saying he's slow? Not something I've noticed but I'm willing to bow to your superior footie knowledge

    What back four would you go with yourself Doctor?

    Historically some of our best fullback combinations have involved players not playing on their favoured / natural side. Irwin and Hughton both played LB and RB at different times when needed. I am not saying Christie is ar that level, but he is a full back who knows how to defend and has done well when picked.

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