Frankie Sutherland

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Bonnie, you can't seriously call me a troll because my opinions are not the same as yours.

If I was a troll would every third post I make be four paragraphs long and would I have a decent knowledge of Irish football players?

Give me some credit, please.

People throw the word "troll" around without even having the slightest idea about it's true meaning. In many cases, it's just a convenient catch all to use against someone to disregard their contrasting opinions and build a groundswell of opposition against them.

There are a few interesting articles on the "troll" phenomenon. Google is your friend.

[DannyInvincible]

Praise the Lord. I was afraid to ask!

Come back SkStu, don't let him defeat you. Let my sad attempt at reverse psychology defeat you instead.

I've been a bit hard on TOWK. It's not like I don't give him oxygen. It takes two to tango and, in fairness, the two have us have probably been as bad as the other at times in sucking all life and enjoyment out of an argument. I hope I didn't contribute to Stu's departure.

(That's a comeback plea, Stu, if you're reading this!... Please!)

[DannyInvincible]

I don't really think you're a troll either, TOWK. You can be trollish at times, sure, but you're not a troll.

[Crosby87]

Ybig is more of a fan page to me lacking nuts and bolts discussion. I would go there to ask about places to meet up but other than that it can be like 12 posts in a row of "oh gwan" and "remember when the count lost his pants in Bari."
Not putting it down just feel like the average age is around 22-23.

[Stuttgart88]

Exactly. Can you go on to YBIG and present fish puns or ask if a girl in a glass box is art? No.

[Crosby87]

AlaskaFox is one of the writers on Goal.com Ireland.

Does he want people to know that?

[Crosby87]

Exactly. Can you go on to YBIG and present fish puns or ask if a girl in a glass box is art? No.

Fair point. If you dont hang out with the primary people on YBIG though... im lost on a lot of what they are talking about was what i meant. Oh, G'wan!

[Stuttgart88]

Looks like The Worm has become worm food..

"Troll" - a misnomer to describe anybody with a conflicting opinion; who upsets the status quo.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/632d63c8-5...#axzz3HfZ9nvV9

[IsMiseSean]

Colbert Report is on YBIG - he put the biggest wum post in history of ybig and got rightly f'ed out of it! Only problem was that he was genuine!

I seen that. Some of the replies were completely ignorant & arrogant.

[DannyInvincible]

Does he want people to know that?

I'm sure he wouldn't mind. He was a poster who was always held in very high esteem and was always fine with people knowing who he was when discussing his website. You could deduce who he was from that connection if you had been paying attention.

[Deckydee]

and here was me thinking that this was a thread about Mr Sutherland

[tetsujin1979]

agreed, let's get back on topic and hope he turns out for the dons this afternoon

[BonnieShels]

Bonnie, you can't seriously call me a troll because my opinions are not the same as yours.

If I was a troll would every third post I make be four paragraphs long and would I have a decent knowledge of Irish football players?

Give me some credit, please.

People throw the word "troll" around without even having the slightest idea about it's true meaning. In many cases, it's just a convenient catch all to use against someone to disregard their contrasting opinions and build a groundswell of opposition against them.

There are a few interesting articles on the "troll" phenomenon. Google is your friend.

Buddy, stop taking things so seriously. Sometimes people crack jokes on here. Madly enough as it may seem.

agreed, let's get back on topic and hope he turns out for the dons this afternoon

Agreed. You wield an Iron fist which has been so often missed since gustavo got borked.

Ironically he now has an iron fist.

[geysir]

Exactly. Can you go on to YBIG and present fish puns or ask if a girl in a glass box is art? No.

And will you find a reply there with a linked reference to an article in the Financial Times?

[tetsujin1979]

Agreed. You wield an Iron fist which has been so often missed since gustavo got borked.

Ironically he now has an iron fist.

I'm prepared to let some discussions go off topic, but I'll step in if things go too far

[Crosby87]

First cousin of actor Keifer Sutherland according to internet lore.

And Danny I was being sarcastic about the fox which you would know if ye paid attention to me.

[tetsujin1979]

On the bench for QPR this afternoon, might make his first appearance for them

[Charlie Darwin]

Chris Ramsey is slowly blooding Irish underage strikers at QPR. Does he have an Irish mammy? Ryan Manning will be next hopefully.

[tetsujin1979]

Chris Ramsey is slowly blooding Irish underage strikers at QPR. Does he have an Irish mammy? Ryan Manning will be next hopefully.

Ramsey previously worked with the underage sides, alongside former Irish underage cap Steve Gallen
There was an interview with Gallen in the Irish Post a few years ago that mentioned him finding Irish links for their players. I can't find the article on the Irish Post's website, but it's reproduced here: http://www.indyrs.co.uk/2013/04/stev...estside-story/

He[Gallen] estimates that 30 per cent of the QPR fan base has some link to Ireland. I ask how many of the players in the youth team can play for Ireland. “Too many. They are basically half saying to me, ‘Are you taking the p*ss ? How many Irish are at this club ?’ Because don’t worry I can sniff them out, I sniff them out alright.”
“You’ve got Frankie Sutherland and Michael Harriman who are in and around the U21 squad. Bradley Simmonds can play for Ireland. Jamie Sendles-White qualifies for the Republic and the North, his Mum is from Belfast. Younger down, Nathan Corkery, an attacking midfielder and Reece Cox, a striker, both play for Ireland.”

Of the other players he mentions there:

• Michael Harriman is still at QPR, has U21 caps for Ireland, and has spent this season on loan at Luton
• Bradley Simmonds went on to play in Iceland, but seems to have retired from football - he was with Hampton & Richmond Borough F.C. in the Isthmian league until last season, but I can't find any club for him this season - and is now a personal trainer according to his twitter bio: https://twitter.com/bradley_simmo
• Jamie Sendles-White is playing for Northern Ireland U21s, the most recent appearance I can find was against Serbia last September: http://www.irishfa.com/news/item/928...a-u21s-latest/
• Nathan Corkery is still with QPR, and played for the Ireland U18s against Portugal last December: http://www.fai.ie/ireland/match/55505/2015/999941353 Also, he turned 18 last Thursday, happy birthday!
• Reece Grego-Cox is also still with QPR, having recently made his debut for them in the Premier League, and played for the U19's in the elite qualifiers last week

There's an interview with Gallen in the Brent & Kilburn Times from a month ago here: http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/sport/...team_1_3988787
It's quite long, but worth a read, here are some relevant excerpts

on Ryan Manning

He said: “I think Ryan struggled when he moved over here in January.
“It is a bit of a culture shock to move from the west of Ireland to west London, but in the last few weeks he looks more settled and has the confidence to now show why the club paid a fee for him. He’s only the second Under-21 player after Coll Donaldson that the club have paid a fee for.
“Let’s remember, though, that at 18 Ryan is still a kid trying to make his way in the game, but he’s tough, can run, will compete and has a quality left foot.
“I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ryan and Cole Kpekawa play for the first team before the end of the season.

On Reece Grego-Cox

He said: “I’ve got an awful lot of time for Reece. He’s a lovely kid, he’s a triplet actually and very close to his brother and sister.
“The boy is strong, he seriously punches above his weight. As my Dad would say, ‘he’s a tough skin that one’.
“He has scored a lot of goals and I think he will be involved more in the first team this season.”

and on Ryan Manning, who Gallen pushed QPR to sign when he was released by Forest (more on that here: http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/sport/...nnon_1_3890142)

Gallen said: “I think being released by Forest did have an impact on Jake. It probably knocked his confidence a bit but he has great ability.
“He has been missing because because of an injury and he hasn’t been able to complete 90 minutes yet. I had planned to start him against Charlton on Monday but we had the likes of Junior Hoilett and Niko Kranjcar in the team.
“Jake did well when he came off the bench. In training he can look like a world beater, but he can also look poor.
“I’m going to work hard with Jake and he will work hard to make sure he is a world beater more often and to push up being poor to being average.
“He just needs some more time.”

[tricky_colour]

A troll is someone who posts content just to draw attention to that content, and that content alone, regardless of any ongoing discussion around it

Surely everyone posts to draw attention to that content? (ie their post). I am not even sure what you mean there.
I mean the " ongoing discussion around it" is also content, so are they all troll posts to?

Further to that there are numerous differing definition of "troll", I don't think it is helpful term at all as it means different things
to different people.