QuoteThose quotes by Martinez seem as though if Coleman doesn't play Sunday then he'll take a break during the internationals. That's a bit rich given that we play Germany 9 days later, at which point he could well be fit.
I haven't heard any additional news. Far as I know, Everton are still trying to get him ready for Sunday.Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Those quotes by Martinez seem as though if Coleman doesn't play Sunday then he'll take a break during the internationals. That's a bit rich given that we play Germany 9 days later, at which point he could well be fit.
The quotes are a bit ambiguous. He's addressing Everton fans and people interested in Everton, so it's more likely he's just saying if he's not ready for the Manchester United game, he'll definitely be available after the break. Ultimately it's Coleman's decision whether he feels right to join up with the squad.
It's irrelevant...
Deutschland will win.
Will you stop saying that..
http://www.11v11.com/teams/germany/t...es/season/2013
They conceded 7 goals over 2 games against Sweden and squeaked wins against USA, Ghana, Algeria and Scotland in recent times. They are depleted of stars due to retirement, injury or poor form (Ozil, Poldi) and Gomez is lacking match practice.
Unlikely we'll win but we're never going to get anywhere with your kind of attitude.
Portugal draw with Liechtenstein. Italy draw with Luxembourg. Northern Ireland beat England, Spain and Russia. Yet we can't aspire against a team that has 4 or 5 stars and 4 or 5 donkeys in it.
Win, draw or 0-6 loss and I suppose it will be party time in Gelsenkirchen either way though so hey....
Agree with all but the last part, which is a bit childish.
I didn't see Celtic tonight but bbc live tracker suggests Gordon was pretty good, again.
Relax, Forde would have made all the saves he did ..... well, nearly all.
Mulgrew wasn't playing and Brown is still 4 or 5 games off his pace.
Stokes though is beginning to show some shapes.
McGregor is knacked and misses the international break, but he's probably in the worst form of the three goalkeepers so probably won't affect them much.
Yeah, right. have you looked at our form v. decent teams? It'd be a fecking miracle to get any sort of result.
And your last sentence is laughable.
Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Faroe Islands fans have reason to deride their own teams chances of getting results against decent teams - and they do it. Why can't Ireland? Jesus Christ like. Watch the Premier League, FA Cup and Champions League. It isn't that hard to frustrate teams the standard of Germany and nick a point or even better.
If Sweden can put 7 goals past Germany and Scotland can fluster them then no a defeat isn't the writing on the wall.
Enough time has passed now for the new management regime to iron out the inconsistencies, lack of a gameplan and lack of belief that saw us get whipped in a few games following Euro 2012.
If we put in a performance like the one at home to Austria - like we are capable of doing - and build on it instead of retreating into our shells and capitulating, then we can at least do everyone proud and have people questioning who will take the points like Scotland last month.
This Germany team is far from perfect. They have bambi like defence. It's a game made for Shane Long and maybe even Doyle on the counter to fluster them. But will MON be brave enough to select the right team?
I agree with TOWK's general sentiment, aside of his attention seeking '5 donkeys' comment. Obviously the odds are stacked high in favour of your prediction AB, it's a fairly safe bet in reality. We get it though, no need for the constant reminders that we are incapable of getting a result under any circumstances. The fact is though, that a positive result is possible. To say stranger things have happened would be an understatement. Football, and sport generally, throws up unexpected results all the time, as I'm sure anybody who has ever done a four or five team accumulator full of dead certs will testify. Germany cost me a stupid amount of money when they didn't 'sneak a win' against Ghana at the WC. A week or two later they were putting seven past Brazil, as I shook my head with contempt.
I think it's vital that they beat Poland first. If they slip up there they'll have an extra incentive against us. If they beat Poland, they're as good as qualified and might just take the foot off the gas slightly. Plus, we could really do without Poland getting a 'bonus' point.
even though they conceded seven goals against Sweden and Scotland, they still only gave up two points in those three games. I think we have a chance in the game, but a German win is the most likely outcome
We have no chance in either game v.Germany. Get over it!
Our qualification, besides damage limitation in those two games, will be probably based on results v. Alba & Polska.
Actually think the Scots will be 2nd and us 3rd, but we'll both qualify, just about.
And then fail narrowly to get out of our groups in the Finals.
The End.
Good, so why whine on about it then...
Germany are that bad they only won the World Cup 1-0 with an extra time goal!!
We need to face facts. Ireland are a poor side and a team like Germany wouldn't have to hit top gear to beat us. That might be our only hope. If Germany aren't at the races and our 1-11 have blinder we have a chance. But looking at MON's teams and his time at Sunderland he is a negative manager and will look to shut up shop and grind out for point. I hope I'm wrong. I'd rather go for the Scotland approach.
Will you give it a rest... Scotland lost narrowly in Germany. Germany's free scoring wins over Brazil and Ireland are the exception to the rule. They have noticable flaws. Nobody is questioning that Germany are the hot favorites. A win over Ireland is not guaranteed.
Jesus.. I hope the players don't have the same attitude as you.
We got tanked in Dublin due to extenuating circumstances - Trapattoni was waiting for a golden handshake and everyone concerned was going through the motions. We lost comprehensively in a meaningless match under a youth team coach.
Several short years prior to this - under Staunton - we played out tight games with Germany. Same as Scotland did recently. There is no reason why we can't do this under O'Neill.
If a heavy German win is a foregone conclusion then are you still travelling to Gelsenkirchen? And if so why are you bothering?
TBF I think it is for Germany, they are a class act, and have a squad of top class players. We dont even have half a team of decent players.
Germany 1/12 to win the group. Ireland 12/1, knock yourself out
A win for them is probably guaranteed, sadly. Not because previous Ireland teams couldn't grind one out, but have no more faith in these players than say during the Euros, as the collective ethic may have improved but the quality of our players is probably worse...
But we all knew these days were coming, hence my enthusiasm for 'new blood' by whatever means!
And even if we lose, wouldn't put me off going, though if we lose 6-1 again, no-one's going to be delighted...
One of the Polish players went to the eye doctor the other day. The guy pointed to a line on the chart that said C Y Z R C K S K I.
"Can you read that?" Asked the optometrist.
"Read it?" Said the Polish player, " I know the guy!"
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